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Old 04-14-2019 | 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.
Perhaps the problem is white privilege, but dude perhaps the problem with this post is YOU...
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Old 04-15-2019 | 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
Does anyone know if there was truth to the rumor that the express pilots that were put on that flight last minute (causing the bumps) were actually being sent by Republic to cover a flight on the Delta side of their operation?
That's it....it was all part of an elaborate evil Delta plot.... maybe the Russians were involved in it too?

But what about the fact that UAL was using an RJ on a route that clearly had more demand than capacity.... shouldn't the company right size the operation?
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Old 04-15-2019 | 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.
Ask a lawyer if he got a “huge cash settlement” and most will say it was far from “huge.”
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Old 04-15-2019 | 06:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.

Wow - it’s narrative like this that not only displays ignorance of the event, but ignorance on part of the person if they actually believe this, making their argument null and void, in my opinion. Almost beat to death, huh...? A fist was never laid on him, from what I’ve seen. He resisted removal from his seat and face planted the arm rest while fighting the men trying to convince him to leave. A beating never happened. If I’m wrong, then show me footage I haven’t seen yet.

Don’t be a lemming and do some research instead of being a lazy parrot.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.
You just invited a whole lotta hell to rain down on you.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Photoflier
Sure you care; if you’re on the 6am flight the next day. It isn’t just about YOU. This is typical of society today and the law of unintended consequences. You don’t care about what happens to a full plane tomorrow as long as you get on YOUR flight tonight. But I guarantee that if you were on the flight in the morning that got cancelled, you’d be furious that the company “couldn’t get it’s crap together” the night before.
Huh? I paid for that service today. It's like Disney FastPass. I paid for it and get it now, why would I care about the ones standing in line for much later? That's their business and their business between them and the company.

It's not MY fault your airline fell apart somewhere that it needs 5 crew members in another city at the last second. Why don't you have protocols for that to be handled better in the first place? Be honest, there were so many ways this whole thing could have been avoided and 99.9% of that all falls on the airline. You say I'd be furious if I showed up in the AM and the flight cancelled? Not really, it's 6am and the day is just starting and they can probably get me to where I need to go TODAY by rebooking me through another city. Dao's situation was he needed to be there that night and the only other option was re-booking him tomorrow.

It’s the airline business. Things break. Weather happens. It’s a complicated game. But offering more money to give up your seat is only one aspect of the Dao “solution”. Crews will no longer be booked on a flight that’s full if within 60 minutes of departure, period. So in the future, thanks to one guy not wanting to get off the airplane and ****ing off an airport cop, there WILL be downline cancellations. And that flight might be yours. Sorry, but that’s what society demanded. *shrugs*
You're correct those things all happen. These things exist because somewhere along the line the airlines failed the traveling passengers. Dao should have been avoided when they needed to find just one more volunteer by upping the travel voucher offer to $1000 and then 1200, then 1500. Someone else would have taken it because money talks. But because the airline didn't, now you have your rules of no booking DHers within 60 minutes of departure. Same thing with the 3 hr 'tarmac' delay. Too many airlines (and in some cases, the CA themselves) kept the pax as prisoners locked on the plane. Now you have the Pax Bill of Rights.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 02:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Huh? I paid for that service today. It's like Disney FastPass. I paid for it and get it now, why would I care about the ones standing in line for much later? That's their business and their business between them and the company.

It's not MY fault your airline fell apart somewhere that it needs 5 crew members in another city at the last second. Why don't you have protocols for that to be handled better in the first place? Be honest, there were so many ways this whole thing could have been avoided and 99.9% of that all falls on the airline. You say I'd be furious if I showed up in the AM and the flight cancelled? Not really, it's 6am and the day is just starting and they can probably get me to where I need to go TODAY by rebooking me through another city. Dao's situation was he needed to be there that night and the only other option was re-booking him tomorrow.



You're correct those things all happen. These things exist because somewhere along the line the airlines failed the traveling passengers. Dao should have been avoided when they needed to find just one more volunteer by upping the travel voucher offer to $1000 and then 1200, then 1500. Someone else would have taken it because money talks. But because the airline didn't, now you have your rules of no booking DHers within 60 minutes of departure. Same thing with the 3 hr 'tarmac' delay. Too many airlines (and in some cases, the CA themselves) kept the pax as prisoners locked on the plane. Now you have the Pax Bill of Rights.
You come on here and rip us for customer treatment when your airline leads the rankings in one single category, which is customer dissatisfaction. Maybe you should post more in your own forum.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Huh? I paid for that service today. It's like Disney FastPass. I paid for it and get it now, why would I care about the ones standing in line for much later? That's their business and their business between them and the company.

It's not MY fault your airline fell apart somewhere that it needs 5 crew members in another city at the last second. Why don't you have protocols for that to be handled better in the first place? Be honest, there were so many ways this whole thing could have been avoided and 99.9% of that all falls on the airline. You say I'd be furious if I showed up in the AM and the flight cancelled? Not really, it's 6am and the day is just starting and they can probably get me to where I need to go TODAY by rebooking me through another city. Dao's situation was he needed to be there that night and the only other option was re-booking him tomorrow.



You're correct those things all happen. These things exist because somewhere along the line the airlines failed the traveling passengers. Dao should have been avoided when they needed to find just one more volunteer by upping the travel voucher offer to $1000 and then 1200, then 1500. Someone else would have taken it because money talks. But because the airline didn't, now you have your rules of no booking DHers within 60 minutes of departure. Same thing with the 3 hr 'tarmac' delay. Too many airlines (and in some cases, the CA themselves) kept the pax as prisoners locked on the plane. Now you have the Pax Bill of Rights.
You understand that all the “Passenger Bill of Rights” did is guarantee mass cancellations right? EXACTLY what the industry leaders said would happen, the law of unintended consequences strikes again.

One of the biggest “cases” for the tarmac rule was Jetblue on Valentines Day, the airplanes were physically sliding sideways on icy ramps and taxiways but a crusader with a Twitter account couldn’t accept that. Poof.....now no one gets anywhere.
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Old 04-15-2019 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.
Yeah man, no police states or that other stuff. Cook County, IL style justice.....for some!
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Old 04-16-2019 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Setopbug
They were not sworn police officers and had no legal authority to arrest or use force except in their own defense.

Anybody suggesting that compliance with authority figures is the only way to keep from getting beat within an inch of your life are so far removed from the reality of being a human that it's just sad.

Dr. Dao is a fellow human being and didn't deserve what he got. All of the bad publicity, loss of public goodwill and huge cash settlement is because of United Airlines was totally negligent in their handling of him.

Who cares that he argued? Who cares that he was a drug addict? Who cares if he didn't comply?

None of those things warrant a complete negation of his rights and him being beat, almost to death.

What Nazi, police state are some of you guys wanting to live in? JFC, get some perspective on your white entitlement.
Drama queen much?
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