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05-13-2019 | 05:02 AM

#81

Floyd

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Pension was a 1.5 multiplier. That's $159,750 in 2000 and $237,000 today.

I shudder to think what bankruptcy has cost us over the last 16 years. Some, way more than others.

05-13-2019 | 06:14 AM

#82

BMEP100

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From: Tom’s Whipping boy.

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Originally Posted by oldmako

This is comical. The slogan was actually "Fed Up, Pay Me". Yet now, it's been morphed into "Foxtrot You, Pay Me" by someone who tends to see things from Willis point of view and who carries their water here.

Way to go, Potty-Mouth.

All this time I thought you were L-UAL.

Anyway, the milktoast version never made it down to IAH. Only The ACRONYM F.U.P.M. survived the trip from guy cashing in; click the blue word
https://urbanthesaurus.org/synonyms/Pay%20me

05-13-2019 | 06:16 AM

#83

JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by BMEP100

That’s what mine had but it said “Fed Up Pay Me” on the flip side.

05-13-2019 | 06:46 AM

#84

757Driver

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Floyd

Pension was a 1.5 multiplier. That's $159,750 in 2000 and $237,000 today.

I shudder to think what bankruptcy has cost us over the last 16 years. Some, way more than others.

I believe it was 1.65 and was one of the highest in the industry? Of course it was the biggest carrot ever dangled as they had no intent of actually honoring or paying it out.

Unity is found via various methods and like it or not BMEP, the wristband provided it for those of us striving for a better contract. For those like yourself, you could, at no risk, coattail on the rest of us who actually did something.

05-13-2019 | 07:32 AM

#85

Floyd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 757Driver

Multiplier went from 1.41 to 1.5.

After reading these and other posts on what you guys went thru at CAL with scabs and company sycophants you have my respect.

05-13-2019 | 07:33 AM

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oldmako

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From: The GF of FUPM

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Originally Posted by BMEP100

I am LUAL. I was handed a small bag of Fed Up Pay Me wrist-bands by a friend and asked to hand them out. "Fed Up Pay Me" was in yellow on one side of the band, the other side was blank. If the band said FYPM, you might have a point. Since it didn't, you don't.

I don't care what the urban thesaurus says.

05-13-2019 | 09:06 AM

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oldmako

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If LCAL had FYPM wristbands, I understand your point. I saw a LOT of FUPM, never anything different.

05-13-2019 | 09:40 AM

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JoePatroni

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Originally Posted by oldmako

If LCAL had FYPM wristbands, I understand your point. I saw a LOT of FUPM, never anything different.

Never saw a FYPM band....ever. I know two of the guys who had them made and they ALL said FUPM.

05-13-2019 | 07:55 PM

#89

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Originally Posted by Jetfetch

For those people that were here during contract 2000. What would those rates be adjusted for inflation? Also, how much in retirement could one expect before it was taken from the pilots under the guise of keeping the business afloat?

Good points and good questions.

But, the goals we had for contract 2000 went out the window pretty quick.

The guise of keeping the business afloat is a thread all to itself. That was some fancy accounting, short term, long term investments, liquidity short falls, CRP, CPRP, promise to freeze all 44,000 CAL employees, but instead only froze 4000 pilots. Mechanics and FA's told management to bugger off, but we just "did our part." We "worked together." "we had dignity and respect." Fuel hedges busted, A plan double-down vegas style. This whole thing reminds of that Billy Joel song "We didn't start the fire."

What bothers me is company cried liquidity short fall, but some select "special dudes" cried bankruptcy. I wonder what those select special dudes are doing now?