Delays and reporting
09-10-2019, 10:24 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Knotcher
Exactly....but Floyd and his brain apparently thinks that is a scab mentality...
I fully understand at times we don't have all the information. Pretty sad when the situation is so glaringly obvious, zone tells you to go, and you hide behind "we get paid to fly".
09-11-2019, 06:07 AM
#23
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Originally Posted by Knotcher
If there is a safety issue PIC has final say...but when they want it to go it goes....we get paid to fly.
09-11-2019, 07:08 AM
#24
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Originally Posted by Floyd
Four minutes before departure and you notice a family of five run to the gate. The cabin door has closed and the jetway is starting to move away from your jet. You have plenty of seats open. You're flight planned 8 min early flying slow. Zone/ops says they aren't bringing the jetway back and you should push on time.
What do you do?
What do you do?
09-11-2019, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JetDoc
Throw a noob a bone here. What is a "soft start"?
Last edited by APC225; 09-11-2019 at 07:45 AM.
09-11-2019, 07:26 AM
#27
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Originally Posted by fanaticalflyer
I know for a fact this is not true. I've had several flights that they actually did move the departure time much earlier than the delayed time. And people missed the flight. The last one occurred about 4 months ago out of SEA. I was shocked they would leave the pax since the gate agent said delay was at least three hours and they would call over the terminal PA and to listen up. Plane swap, and we left in 45 mins, and zone control said I had to go over my protests. With the memo that came out a few months ago that said flight operations controls if a plane gets to hold or not, that overrode me insisting on waiting on the pax that we were royally screwing over.
09-11-2019, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Guppydriver95
Not sure how long you’ve been a Captain, but zone doesn’t give orders to Captains. I’ve brought jetways back on the last flight of the day to get frantic pax on a few times, as well as directed agents to board Jumpseaters who were going to be left behind. You, as the Captain, have the final say of everything that happens on the jet from the time you show up at the gate until you release the crew at the destination. To abdicate your responsibility just because zone said so is just poor form. Btw, I’ve NEVER been called or questioned about such decisions. But the thought of explaining it to somebody doesn’t even move the needle during my calculus.
09-11-2019, 08:23 AM
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It's really difficult for the gate agent to close the door if I'm standing in the jetway...but on second thought, I guess they could.
My point is, there are lots of things you can do to help out. If you are perceived as trying to help, it goes a long way toward getting late people on. Much more cooperative and by standing in the jetway "trying to help" making a very solid statement you are not going, without being a ass doing it.
Oh, BTW, never answer the phone before or during a trip.
My point is, there are lots of things you can do to help out. If you are perceived as trying to help, it goes a long way toward getting late people on. Much more cooperative and by standing in the jetway "trying to help" making a very solid statement you are not going, without being a ass doing it.
Oh, BTW, never answer the phone before or during a trip.
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