No degree interviews!??!?
11-09-2019 | 05:36 AM
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So 98% of the pilots hired have a 4 year. That in itself doesn't mean anything without knowing what percentage of the applicants have a 4 year. I've heard (but not seen proof) over 95% have a 4 year, making it at most twice as hard to get hired, and possibly just as hard, or even easier if 99% have one. Hard to say without the data
11-09-2019 | 10:46 AM
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This question routinely comes up. Yes, we do hire without it. Yes, the folks without the degree are highly qualified in other areas. (High total time, excess type ratings, evaluator pilot, management experience, former military, all of the above.)
But you're not competitive for getting the invite without it. Just keep plugging away until you're finished, knowing that chances are your phone won't ring until you update with the degree.
But you're not competitive for getting the invite without it. Just keep plugging away until you're finished, knowing that chances are your phone won't ring until you update with the degree.
11-09-2019 | 05:00 PM
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From: Aircraft & Seat: old & hard
It’s like fishing size restrictions. They are going to throw back anything that bites that is under a certain size. If you are a fish that wants to get caught and kept, deliberately taking yourself out of the keeper category isn’t a smart move. If you choose not to meet their requirements, expect to be thrown back. You may not like it, but those are the current rules of the sea.
(it probably is, just don't like sloppy math)
11-13-2019 | 08:23 PM
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8400 TT
7900 Jet
2300 PIC
12 years at a regional
Line Check Pilot
Several jobs prior to the airline with management/supervisory experience, but 2 classes shy of a college degree before my school closed.
My best guess is that the combination of LCP and other prior management positions is enough to satisfy their degree requirement.
Still waiting on a class date....
11-14-2019 | 04:08 AM
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I am in the minority, and count myself fortunate. Interviewed 10/24 and received the CJO on 11/1. My stats:
8400 TT
7900 Jet
2300 PIC
12 years at a regional
Line Check Pilot
Several jobs prior to the airline with management/supervisory experience, but 2 classes shy of a college degree before my school closed.
My best guess is that the combination of LCP and other prior management positions is enough to satisfy their degree requirement.
Still waiting on a class date....
8400 TT
7900 Jet
2300 PIC
12 years at a regional
Line Check Pilot
Several jobs prior to the airline with management/supervisory experience, but 2 classes shy of a college degree before my school closed.
My best guess is that the combination of LCP and other prior management positions is enough to satisfy their degree requirement.
Still waiting on a class date....
11-14-2019 | 04:44 AM
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Not all were turned down. Some were given a CJO provided that they finish their degree within a specified period of time. We are not near the point where the degree doesn’t matter. Getting hired without one makes one the exception to the rule. We’ve all known how the legacies view a degree. Not having one is a choice that is made, one that will have an extremely negative impact on the odds of gaining employment at a legacy. We’ve all known that this hiring wave was coming, yet some still decided not to check the boxes that they want to see checked. A degree doesn’t make you a better pilot, but without one you will watch others move on while you toil away at the regional level.
11-16-2019 | 06:58 PM
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I am in the minority, and count myself fortunate. Interviewed 10/24 and received the CJO on 11/1. My stats:
8400 TT
7900 Jet
2300 PIC
12 years at a regional
Line Check Pilot
Several jobs prior to the airline with management/supervisory experience, but 2 classes shy of a college degree before my school closed.
My best guess is that the combination of LCP and other prior management positions is enough to satisfy their degree requirement.
Still waiting on a class date....
8400 TT
7900 Jet
2300 PIC
12 years at a regional
Line Check Pilot
Several jobs prior to the airline with management/supervisory experience, but 2 classes shy of a college degree before my school closed.
My best guess is that the combination of LCP and other prior management positions is enough to satisfy their degree requirement.
Still waiting on a class date....
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