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Old 11-24-2019 | 06:49 AM
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Originally Posted by aileronjam
I didn’t say you said that... That’s why I asked the question.... to clarify what you were saying.

All that being said, to have interviewers use the “degree” as the sole indicator as to whether someone can “play by the rules” or “complete a life goal”... they are being lazy themselves in not looking for other ways to determine those human traits. They are potentially passing up excellent pilots/people who might far exceed the qualities of their counterparts with the “degree”.

We used to require people to be no more than 30 years old to be hired. We used to require 20/20 uncorrected vision to be hired. Those criteria were modified because they were determined to be weeding out potentially excellent candidates.

I know what the rules are today... just stating an opinion as to why I think they should be altered.
I don’t know about it being the sole determining factor, but it is a major factor. They consider the lack of a degree a big negative mark, and there are still plenty of people available with what they are looking for. They may be passing up “potentially excellent candidates”, I’m sure that they are, but the ones that they decide to go with are also very good. Being that they consider a degree to be a big deal, and that we are not going to see a lack of good applicants with a degree for a while, the choice is up to the applicant. Get the degree or try to get hired somewhere else.
Old 11-24-2019 | 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Itsajob
I don’t know about it being the sole determining factor, but it is a major factor. They consider the lack of a degree a big negative mark, and there are still plenty of people available with what they are looking for. They may be passing up “potentially excellent candidates”, I’m sure that they are, but the ones that they decide to go with are also very good. Being that they consider a degree to be a big deal, and that we are not going to see a lack of good applicants with a degree for a while, the choice is up to the applicant. Get the degree or try to get hired somewhere else.
Again, I understand how the current system works. I’m just saying I think it’s asinine and arbitrary and should be changed. I’m sure it won’t, but that’s not the point.
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Originally Posted by Regularguy
Actually those were changed because of lawsuits against UAL and then someone “saw the light.”
Either way, the system was changed for the better.
Old 11-24-2019 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by aileronjam
Either way, the system was changed for the better.
Life should bend to aileronjam’s view of the world ? Lmao

A box that needs to be checked if you want to be here. Nothing more nothing less.
Old 11-24-2019 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by aileronjam
Again, I understand how the current system works. I’m just saying I think it’s asinine and arbitrary and should be changed. I’m sure it won’t, but that’s not the point.
Considering all the people you are arguing with must have at least a 4 year degree, it is a bit disappointing to see such a lack of reasoning skills on their part. I totally agree with you.
Old 11-24-2019 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by aileronjam
Again, I understand how the current system works. I’m just saying I think it’s asinine and arbitrary and should be changed. I’m sure it won’t, but that’s not the point.
They day you took your first flying lesson, and the day you decided you wanted to be a major airline pilot.... was a college degree one of those requirements?

Yeah that’s what I thought.
Old 11-24-2019 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
They day you took your first flying lesson, and the day you decided you wanted to be a major airline pilot.... was a college degree one of those requirements?

Yeah that’s what I thought.
Exactly. I knew in grade school what was required and what paths would get me where I wanted to be. Tough decisions would have to be made. Had to say “no” to situations that looked fun at the time but would have put the career in jeopardy. Plenty of people took out student loans etc to go to college after high school or did ROTC etc in college and came up through the military ranks. As has been pointed out in this thread already; there are flying jobs, even at some airlines; where the four year college degree barrier is nonexistent. If United or Delta are your goals, meet the qualifications instead of insist they make an exception for you.
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest
If United or Delta are your goals, meet the qualifications instead of insist they make an exception for you.
Who is insisting that United or Delta make exceptions?
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Originally Posted by Grumble
They day you took your first flying lesson, and the day you decided you wanted to be a major airline pilot.... was a college degree one of those requirements?

Yeah that’s what I thought.
So was uncorrected 20/20 vision.... what’s your point?
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Originally Posted by aileronjam
So was uncorrected 20/20 vision.... what’s your point?
One is a biological limitation that’s correctable, the other is a choice.
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