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Old 03-15-2020, 06:01 AM
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For all you who are trying to put some logic into this mess, forget it.

Recovery as an airline to level just last month are fully dependent on the traveling public and when the politicians decide their world war is over.

Transportaion of food and essentials will continue, mbut I would imagine the general public is also going through or will be soon layoffs and a rising unemployment. Causing air travel to be second or third in most people’s radar.

Basically don’t expect returning to the past levels of flying for at least a year or two. Now put your calculators to that idea.

What will or can ALPA negotiate? While past practice gives us a hint do not expect anything and be surprised and thankful when it’s better than that.

All wars come to and end eventually and so will this one. Don’t be a casualty!

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Look at the bright side in for all the noobs, in 20 years you can tell all your youngn’ FOs about the great COVID crisis of 2020 and all the blood you shed. #streetcred
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Look at the bright side in for all the noobs, in 20 years you can tell all your youngn’ FOs about the great COVID crisis of 2020 and all the blood you shed. #streetcred
If in 20 years there are FO’s...or pilots.
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Old 03-15-2020, 02:58 PM
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UA Dispatchers just got an email saying the should have concessions to vote on in the next few days. Reductions in "pay, hours, and staffing."
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Old 03-15-2020, 03:10 PM
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Hopefully our union will hold firm on the contract and let chips fall where they may... pilot group hopefully has learned over last 30 years that we can’t save a sinking ship.
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Old 03-15-2020, 04:30 PM
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Had a group of reserve F/As on our plane. They said they had gotten an email from their union that because no one is taking COLA, they will need to do staffing level adjustments(furloughing) and to expect something early next week
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This is escalating quickly, it is reminiscent of the oil crisis in 2007-2008. “It’ll blow over, oil will go down, furloughs don’t make sense”...now we are saying, “The hot temperature will end this, it’ll disappear before we know it, furloughs don’t make sense”. I was one of the 147 that received a pink slip for 27 months. It sucks and telling people retirements will cover is fake news.
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I think there's still a lot of lingering bias leftover from 9/11 and 2008. The big 3 CEOs were in DC trying to secure emergency funding LAST WEEK--which means they had been working towards that for probably another week before that. This is unprecedented, we are in uncharted waters here. If you think our contract will save us, or that we'll be recovering after a few months and maybe a quick furlough, I urge you to reevaluate the assumptions driving that conclusion. Ask for and give help when you need it/can. This is not going to be just a repeat of 2008. Our industry is going to fundamentally change from this.
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:42 PM
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Did you actually get to read the FA's email?
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Old 03-15-2020, 05:44 PM
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Did you actually get to read the FA's email?
more FA rumors....
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