Is reserve still a choice???
03-24-2020, 06:43 PM
#31
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 142
You're an outlier. While it's GREAT that you are in a spot that you like, there are over 12K guys at this airline. MOST of them do not want to be 13-year guppy FO's. Your big secret isn't a big secret. It's certainly not mine and not most of the guys I fly with. And I'm not even on reserve. But I've been there. A lot.
The Reserve section of the UA contract needs work. But, we shat that opportunity in exchange for some quick cash. That opportunity is now likely lost for much of the next decade. We have but one place to go and that is south.
With 23 years I am back on Reserve in April. And certainly not by choice.
Airline pilots are the most myopic people on the planet.
The Reserve section of the UA contract needs work. But, we shat that opportunity in exchange for some quick cash. That opportunity is now likely lost for much of the next decade. We have but one place to go and that is south.
With 23 years I am back on Reserve in April. And certainly not by choice.
Airline pilots are the most myopic people on the planet.
Last edited by Bat Guano; 03-24-2020 at 06:56 PM.
03-24-2020, 06:55 PM
#32
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Joined APC: Mar 2020
Position: Killin' Natsees
Posts: 188
Originally Posted by Bat Guano
Reserve at UA needs work.
I’d imagine it’s pretty much worse than most any regional reserve.
Last edited by Aldo Raine; 03-24-2020 at 07:10 PM.
03-24-2020, 07:15 PM
#35
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 1,982
Originally Posted by Illini75
Been at UAL 13 years and am a 737FO, by choice, and love it!
Every holiday off, every weekend off, first choice of vacation, premium pay every month, and trip drops anytime =
100% control over quality of life.
Everytime I fly with a junior Captain who complains non-stop, I ask: “Can you hold narrowbody FO in base?
Answer: “um, oh, ahh”... reserve sucks”. Commuting sucks, etc, etc, etc.
I also hear wide-body FO’s in my base complaining about being on reserve and working every holiday...
I just shake my head, smile and keep my big secret that happiness in this business is seniority in BES, not upgrading or flying wide-bodies.
To answer your question:
reserve is a choice unless you’ve been hired in the past 2-years. You knew the seniority game before hired, knew the bases at United before you applied and yet you have “decided” to upgrade from the 737/320 BY CHOICE, unless of course you’ve been here less then 24-months, at which point you can bid from the new-hire assigned 756 fleet to a 737/320 FO position.
Long-story short: anyone here more than 24/ months and not in the 737/320 fleet is on reserve by choice.
(And yes, I would still be a senior line holder, but bid an SRL Line for April to avoid crap flying and re-assignments...again, by CHOICE!)
Every holiday off, every weekend off, first choice of vacation, premium pay every month, and trip drops anytime =
100% control over quality of life.
Everytime I fly with a junior Captain who complains non-stop, I ask: “Can you hold narrowbody FO in base?
Answer: “um, oh, ahh”... reserve sucks”. Commuting sucks, etc, etc, etc.
I also hear wide-body FO’s in my base complaining about being on reserve and working every holiday...
I just shake my head, smile and keep my big secret that happiness in this business is seniority in BES, not upgrading or flying wide-bodies.
To answer your question:
reserve is a choice unless you’ve been hired in the past 2-years. You knew the seniority game before hired, knew the bases at United before you applied and yet you have “decided” to upgrade from the 737/320 BY CHOICE, unless of course you’ve been here less then 24-months, at which point you can bid from the new-hire assigned 756 fleet to a 737/320 FO position.
Long-story short: anyone here more than 24/ months and not in the 737/320 fleet is on reserve by choice.
(And yes, I would still be a senior line holder, but bid an SRL Line for April to avoid crap flying and re-assignments...again, by CHOICE!)
13 years you’ve been at United and you are just now making your first post? You havent had anything to say since Dec 2010?
03-24-2020, 07:18 PM
#36
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Joined APC: Oct 2010
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 648
Originally Posted by Bat Guano
You're an outlier. While it's GREAT that you are in a spot that you like, there are over 12K guys at this airline. MOST of them do not want to be 13-year guppy FO's. Your big secret isn't a big secret. It's certainly not mine and not most of the guys I fly with. And I'm not even on reserve. But I've been there. A lot.
The Reserve section of the UA contract needs work. But, we shat that opportunity in exchange for some quick cash. That opportunity is now likely lost for much of the next decade. We have but one place to go and that is south.
With 23 years I am back on Reserve in April. And certainly not by choice.
Airline pilots are the most myopic people on the planet.
The Reserve section of the UA contract needs work. But, we shat that opportunity in exchange for some quick cash. That opportunity is now likely lost for much of the next decade. We have but one place to go and that is south.
With 23 years I am back on Reserve in April. And certainly not by choice.
Airline pilots are the most myopic people on the planet.
03-24-2020, 07:39 PM
#37
Orbis Non Sufficit
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 730
Originally Posted by Illini75
I just shake my head, smile and keep my big secret that happiness in this business is seniority in BES, not upgrading or flying wide-bodies.
03-24-2020, 07:44 PM
#38
New Hire
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
13 years you’ve been at United and you are just now making your first post? You havent had anything to say since Dec 2010?
is there some street cred that is required in order to make a post?
yes, hired at LUAL in 07, furloughed for years, etc, etc, but didn’t think my background/history is of importance to make a post...carry-on.
03-24-2020, 07:46 PM
#39
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Joined APC: May 2007
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 1,982
Originally Posted by Illini75
And...
is there some street cred that is required in order to make a post?
yes, hired at LUAL in 07, furloughed for years, etc, etc, but didn’t think my background/history is of importance to make a post...carry-on.
is there some street cred that is required in order to make a post?
yes, hired at LUAL in 07, furloughed for years, etc, etc, but didn’t think my background/history is of importance to make a post...carry-on.
Last edited by pilotgolfer; 03-24-2020 at 08:03 PM.
03-24-2020, 08:46 PM
#40
Banned
Joined APC: Jun 2015
Posts: 64
Since res is a choice why don't we make it worse in the next contract than it already is. Lets just have no res rules. I can't believe there is a single pilot that wouldn't desire improvements in all sections of the contract all the time. Wtf
Last edited by whaler; 03-24-2020 at 09:02 PM.
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