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Old 05-03-2020 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
And the earth is flat too right?
It’s round. I don’t get how the earth being flat makes a difference in this situation. Regardless of it’s shape we have problems on earth and need better leaders to run it.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
It’s round. I don’t get how the earth being flat makes a difference in this situation. Regardless of it’s shape we have problems on earth and need better leaders to run it.
It’s a euphemism for the theory that the government is behind Carona Virus. I definitely agree with you on that we need better leaders but I don’t even remotely think this was intentionally fabricated by our government.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by mjsunde
I"m not sure what you're basing that 2012 date on on but I'm a 2000 hire (twice furloughed and heading to third time) and these numbers go well beyond my seniority!
I think you are misinterpreting the numbers. I could be wrong and it wouldn't be the first time.

Anyways, first everyone needs to understand that the seniority numbers in the displacement letter were saying people below that number can't hold CA or WB FO. That number was 6800 something. That says nothing about where the company will draw the line on furloughs. Remember we have 13,000 or so pilots on the list. 30% is 4,000 guys going down to seniority numbers in the 9,000s and thats AFTER the July re-update of your seniority number which should move about 400 - 500 from what you are now. Most importantly it appears the company is planning for the absolute worst case scenario and is probably being too aggressive to start. Honestly, I do not believe a 2000/2007 hire will be furloughed, but like I said just my opinion, and I have been wrong before. The real issue as some have alluded is what management will estimate for summer 2021, and there is a TON of data and time yet to come in before anyone can think of summer 2021. Let's all pray for a stronger rebound in traffic than currently expected.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
It’s a euphemism for the theory that the government is behind Carona Virus. I definitely agree with you on that we need better leaders but I don’t even remotely think this was intentionally fabricated by our government.
My personal fav is that there is no virus. The symptoms are caused by 5g towers.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 01:32 PM
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I think I didn't explain my meaning clearly enough. To put it simply when one says displacements are going back to 2007 hire what that means is that anyone hired after 2007 will no longer be able to hold CAPTAIN and must bid back to an FO seat. AFTER that displacement there will be a displacement for FOs with a VERY different seniority number and THEN the company will need to decide how many to furlough.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
ILet's all pray for a stronger rebound in traffic than currently expected.
This is the crux of everything. Here’s to hoping that our leaders get their collective heads out of their aśśèś and open up everything with the realization that COVID19 represents the same risk to normal individuals as the common Flu. OPEN UP THE ECONOMY. This is an epic case of hyper over reaction leading to the cure being ten times worse than the disease.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 01:43 PM
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MODERATOR NOTE:

There is a COVID forum, this thread is to discuss Displacement Bid 20-07D

Please stay on topic.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunvox
I think I didn't explain my meaning clearly enough. To put it simply when one says displacements are going back to 2007 hire what that means is that anyone hired after 2007 will no longer be able to hold CAPTAIN and must bid back to an FO seat. AFTER that displacement there will be a displacement for FOs with a VERY different seniority number and THEN the company will need to decide how many to furlough.
2007? Check your dates-of-hire again.
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Old 05-03-2020 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by N1CEandEZ
And the earth is flat too right?
Yes ... except for the grassy knoll ...
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Old 05-03-2020 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
2007? Check your dates-of-hire again.
he was talking about the Cal side...they are mixed among the 2000 UAL hires. The 2007s from CAL are a thousand senior to the 2007 from UAL. Although I don’t quite follow his argument.
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