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Never said it was perfect, but most likely better than from where you worked before.
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Originally Posted by levelhead
(Post 3130824)
FALSE.
Junior narrowbody captains that might be furloughed (A small group) will get $270x35 which is $9380. Middle group Narrowbody FO's at 52 hours and $193 an hour will still make $10036. Please actually research and do the math before posting false claims like this. Weird times for sure for when people are completely apathetic to thousands of co-workers losing their jobs. |
Originally Posted by levelhead
(Post 3130824)
FALSE.
Junior narrowbody captains that might be furloughed (A small group) will get $270x35 which is $9380. Middle group Narrowbody FO's at 52 hours and $193 an hour will still make $10036. Please actually research and do the math before posting false claims like this. Weird times for sure for when people are completely apathetic to thousands of co-workers losing their jobs. |
Originally Posted by 130shadow
(Post 3130963)
You actually believe that it’s ok to have an A-B-C scale when pilots in 85 went on strike so we wouldn’t have a B scale? You are ok with pilots taking a pay cut to supplement your income?
now you make some dumbass post about taking a pay cut to “line the pockets” of the junior pilots. If you are going to post about unionism then show some. I don’t care if you vote no but you don’t need to be a condescending a-hole about it. |
Nobody making 50% is going to be “lining their pockets”. Narrowly avoiding being homeless is a little closer to accurate. I’m not voting for anybody else’s pay cut. I’m voting for my own. What happens to you is collateral damage, and that is how you feel about us, as well. If it doesn’t work for you, vote no.....I will accept the outcome either way, I just wanted a chance to vote on this thing.
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
(Post 3131077)
Nobody making 50% is going to be “lining their pockets”. Narrowly avoiding being homeless is a little closer to accurate. I’m not voting for anybody else’s pay cut. I’m voting for my own. What happens to you is collateral damage, and that is how you feel about us, as well. If it doesn’t work for you, vote no.....I will accept the outcome either way, I just wanted a chance to vote on this thing.
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Originally Posted by Big5
(Post 3131097)
ALPA lost me at "first you start by dividing the pilot group into 1/3's"
because it sounds like you’re upset with a (temporary) lack of equal treatment for all members (That attempts to keep all of our pilots employed), but yet you’re okay with cutting lose any dead weight in our pilot ranks, regardless of the economic environment they’ll face? |
Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 3131104)
because it sounds like you’re upset with a (temporary) lack of equal treatment for all members (That attempts to keep all of our pilots employed), but yet you’re okay with cutting lose any dead weight in our pilot ranks, regardless of the economic environment they’ll face? |
Originally Posted by 130shadow
(Post 3130206)
We are in a union, but not a socialist union. I contribute my dues to better the profession and am proud to do so. I contribute to the furlough fund to help guys out with health insurance and happy to do so. But I draw the line in taking a reduction in mpg to the tune of $4800 a month to pay other pilots salaries.
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Originally Posted by duvie
(Post 3131104)
cant have it both ways. Either you believe in a union that works to actively protect all its members, or you believe ALPA is there for collective bargaining and contract enforcement.
because it sounds like you’re upset with a (temporary) lack of equal treatment for all members (That attempts to keep all of our pilots employed), but yet you’re okay with cutting lose any dead weight in our pilot ranks, regardless of the economic environment they’ll face? Representation does not entail carve outs and windfalls. A guy with a furlough letter in hand can keep the job AND keep his captain pay making the same as a middle guy while working less. That is not right and you know it. |
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