The grass
09-28-2020, 03:58 AM
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The grass
Passing this TA will keep pilots furloughed even longer when they are finally furloughed. You will have a very large number of senior pilots and pilots not pay protected that will pick up open time when the flying does come back. Their rationale will be, “I already gave to the junior pilots”. Thus keeping pilots on the streets longer. Have seen this movie before. You will have another large number of pilots hoping they do furlough in June so this TA gets thrown out. How’s that for you? Now hoping they furlough so your paycheck can be restored. People won’t admit that out loud, but they will they think it. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
09-28-2020, 04:18 AM
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Originally Posted by 130shadow
Passing this TA will keep pilots furloughed even longer when they are finally furloughed. You will have a very large number of senior pilots and pilots not pay protected that will pick up open time when the flying does come back. Their rationale will be, “I already gave to the junior pilots”. Thus keeping pilots on the streets longer. Have seen this movie before. You will have another large number of pilots hoping they do furlough in June so this TA gets thrown out. How’s that for you? Now hoping they furlough so your paycheck can be restored. People won’t admit that out loud, but they will they think it. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
09-28-2020, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 130shadow
Passing this TA will keep pilots furloughed even longer when they are finally furloughed. You will have a very large number of senior pilots and pilots not pay protected that will pick up open time when the flying does come back. Their rationale will be, “I already gave to the junior pilots”. Thus keeping pilots on the streets longer. Have seen this movie before. You will have another large number of pilots hoping they do furlough in June so this TA gets thrown out. How’s that for you? Now hoping they furlough so your paycheck can be restored. People won’t admit that out loud, but they will they think it. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
09-28-2020, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by 130shadow
Passing this TA will keep pilots furloughed even longer when they are finally furloughed. You will have a very large number of senior pilots and pilots not pay protected that will pick up open time when the flying does come back. Their rationale will be, “I already gave to the junior pilots”. Thus keeping pilots on the streets longer. Have seen this movie before.
When the dust settles the company is gonna staff the airline to EXACTLY match capacity regardless of TA passage or failure.
That's the movie we've all seen before.
09-28-2020, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by 130shadow
Passing this TA will keep pilots furloughed even longer when they are finally furloughed. You will have a very large number of senior pilots and pilots not pay protected that will pick up open time when the flying does come back. Their rationale will be, “I already gave to the junior pilots”. Thus keeping pilots on the streets longer. Have seen this movie before. You will have another large number of pilots hoping they do furlough in June so this TA gets thrown out. How’s that for you? Now hoping they furlough so your paycheck can be restored. People won’t admit that out loud, but they will they think it. Grass isn’t always greener on the other side.
09-28-2020, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Nucflash
He’s projecting his own self-centered mindset on the rest of us. Speak for yourself. Not everyone is like you, thankfully.
09-28-2020, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr
I'm calling shenanigans. There are plenty of legitimate PRO and CON arguments to this TA but this ain't one of them.
When the dust settles the company is gonna staff the airline to EXACTLY match capacity regardless of TA passage or failure.
That's the movie we've all seen before.
When the dust settles the company is gonna staff the airline to EXACTLY match capacity regardless of TA passage or failure.
That's the movie we've all seen before.
09-28-2020, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
Agreed, but this will help the company staff to their desired end state much quicker. This will result in 4000+ furloughs next June, not 2006. The beauty of this for Kirby is that we will pay to get him out of his training conundrum. We are about to win a big stupid prize for playing a big stupid game.
09-28-2020, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Big5
So can I expect my 3 month furlough notice in March while earning 1/2 MPG now vs the full MPG?
09-28-2020, 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AxlF16
If you're in the bottom 2007 you should expect a 3 month notice in late Feb - which is at least 3 months AFTER you would've been furloughed sans TA. I hope you don't get the notice, but it's wise to expect it to come.
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