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09-28-2020, 10:14 AM
#22
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: 787
Posts: 3,120
Originally Posted by CousinEddie
Wrong. PVSL2 pilots, despite not flying do not create tier move-ups until they turn 65 (or 24 months from DOS, whichever comes first). So even if 655 sign up, it won’t move the tiers at all.
09-28-2020, 10:25 AM
#25
Eating A Gruben
Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 1,065
Originally Posted by pilotgolfer
come cut my grass. 😁
09-28-2020, 10:28 AM
#26
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 519
Originally Posted by opt0712
With the savings, does this mean the inflight service will get better?
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09-28-2020, 11:14 AM
#27
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jul 2011
Posts: 37
Originally Posted by duvie
10% less days worked for the top
18% less days for the middle
50% less for the bottom.
and the tiers are fluid, especially with potentially 655 new members to the top two. Not to mention some of my WB buddies who’ll bid to a lower tier and commute only twice a month
seniority honored and we are all in this together
18% less days for the middle
50% less for the bottom.
and the tiers are fluid, especially with potentially 655 new members to the top two. Not to mention some of my WB buddies who’ll bid to a lower tier and commute only twice a month
seniority honored and we are all in this together
"Days less worked", that is not true. Oh, if only it were that simple. 2:20
Wait till your vacation month rolls around and do the math. Keeping the vacation multiplier at 2:20 will be a paycut for many pilots. Remember the 2:20 comes from 70 hours MPG divided by 30 days. Why did the mulitplier not change to the commensurate MPG? Ah, its just the fine print. Who reads the fine print anyway?
And when is going from 70 to 60 a 10% cut?
09-28-2020, 11:22 AM
#28
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: guppy CA
Posts: 5,152
Originally Posted by mmm123
I have been negative Andy but have never indicated taking an early out.. I'm still comfortable saying I don't think it will work, but when it doesn't I won't be gloating. I don't get pulled in to the this will have us in better position when it all turns around, I can't believe they sold the group on that statement. I am okay if I'm totally wrong but I will be surprised.Time will tell.
There was another person complaining that he just missed the age limit for the previous early out. Will be interesting to see what he does.
Having been furloughed twice from the lazy U, I know how bad it sucks. I'm glad we were able to keep these guys on property a while longer.
At this point, it all depends on how fast people will return to flying. And that's going to depend on how long it takes for Covid to be done. I expect at least one of the vaccines in phase 3 trials to be fairly effective for Covid.
09-28-2020, 02:00 PM
#29
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Joined APC: Mar 2020
Posts: 246
Originally Posted by SystemB
Post-merger UAL is and will remain the best passenger airline to work for. This deal will help ensure that. Still a gamble, but odds are in our favor.
09-28-2020, 02:50 PM
#30
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,043
Originally Posted by mmm123
I have been negative Andy but have never indicated taking an early out.. I'm still comfortable saying I don't think it will work, but when it doesn't I won't be gloating. I don't get pulled in to the this will have us in better position when it all turns around, I can't believe they sold the group on that statement. I am okay if I'm totally wrong but I will be surprised.Time will tell.
In your(or any other "no" pilot's) opinion what is the absolute rock bottom outcome of this agreement?
