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Old 10-27-2020, 08:58 AM
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Once the crap shoots out the leg holes of juniors diaper, there's no putting it back.
This is hilarious, thank you!
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Old 10-27-2020, 09:18 AM
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And then kirby asked the judge to make these cuts permanent.
what cuts? The TA doesn’t exist the day we declare bankruptcy.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets View Post
what cuts? The TA doesn’t exist the day we declare bankruptcy.
You can smash their craniums against a wall ‘till kingdom come.....it’s not going to break any functioning neurons loose.
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Old 10-27-2020, 10:54 PM
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You can smash their craniums against a wall ‘till kingdom come.....it’s not going to break any functioning neurons loose.
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Old 10-28-2020, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Wingedbeast View Post
And then kirby asked the judge to make these cuts permanent.
If that’s all that happens in BK, I say that’s very optimistic. The judge making this LOA permanent would be just fine IMO, compared to some other creative deep cuts that he could impose. I hope you are correct.
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Old 10-28-2020, 10:32 AM
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If that’s all that happens in BK, I say that’s very optimistic. The judge making this LOA permanent would be just fine IMO, compared to some other creative deep cuts that he could impose. I hope you are correct.
The problem is, UAL also would not want this LOA permanent in the event of a BK.

Yes, they would want deep cuts but pretty much the opposite of this LOA. Instead, they would desire very high LPAs (to enable maximum furloughs) combined with huge cuts to pay and work rules.

This LOA is designed to retain pilots for a rebound, not minimize labor expenses for an airline shrinking in BK.
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Old 10-28-2020, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
The problem is, UAL also would not want this LOA permanent in the event of a BK.

Yes, they would want deep cuts but pretty much the opposite of this LOA. Instead, they would desire very high LPAs (to enable maximum furloughs) combined with huge cuts to pay and work rules.

This LOA is designed to retain pilots for a rebound, not minimize labor expenses for an airline shrinking in BK.
You’re right. Our creditors and shareholders will demand maximum productivity and cost cutting, rather than paying more to carry a bunch of dead weight. The real problem is that you are trying to apply logic and reason with people who respond poorly to that approach.
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Old 10-28-2020, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by cadetdrivr View Post
The problem is, UAL also would not want this LOA permanent in the event of a BK.

Yes, they would want deep cuts but pretty much the opposite of this LOA. Instead, they would desire very high LPAs (to enable maximum furloughs) combined with huge cuts to pay and work rules.

This LOA is designed to retain pilots for a rebound, not minimize labor expenses for an airline shrinking in BK.
exactly.....what airline wants a bunch of unproductive pilots? They would rather a BK judge force us to 90hrs a month.
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exactly.....what airline wants a bunch of unproductive pilots? They would rather a BK judge force us to 90hrs a month.
90 hours a month with a 50% pay cut. That how that works.
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Old 10-28-2020, 05:46 PM
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90 hours a month with a 50% pay cut. That how that works.
90 hr line, 50% pay cut, and NO pay protection. The company wants that low MPG, like the 65 hrs we had in bankruptcy. When trips and turns fall off your schedule throughout the month you’ll have a long way to fall before you hit the minimum. Think “we only want to pay what you actually fly”.

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