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Old 11-14-2020 | 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
i just wonder if there will be a significant number who have aged up to close to 65 who say it is just not worth it and just call it a day.
I’m guessing that those people took the early out. Those who are are left will spend a few days knocking the rust off and go back to the line. I’m shocked by how much I’ve dumped, but I’d only need a couple of days reading the FOM plus a few days in the FM. Systems, flows, and limitations would come back fast. If I went back to my previous fleet, an RQ1 would be sufficient.
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Old 11-14-2020 | 08:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
I’m guessing that those people took the early out. Those who are are left will spend a few days knocking the rust off and go back to the line. I’m shocked by how much I’ve dumped, but I’d only need a couple of days reading the FOM plus a few days in the FM. Systems, flows, and limitations would come back fast. If I went back to my previous fleet, an RQ1 would be sufficient.
I agree, just like falling off a bicycle. You will quickly remember.

But if someone did not take an early out and will be 63 or 64 when called to resume flying... I wonder.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by TransWorld
I agree, just like falling off a bicycle. You will quickly remember.

But if someone did not take an early out and will be 63 or 64 when called to resume flying... I wonder.
The sim was like the bicycle for me. The challenge for me after an extended break was always the FM and FOM. The older I got the more of a challenge it became.

YMMV
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Old 11-15-2020 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Huell
The sim was like the bicycle for me. The challenge for me after an extended break was always the FM and FOM. The older I got the more of a challenge it became.

YMMV
The sim and flying has always been like a bicycle to me as well, and I find that the book work requires more focus as I age. My problem doesn’t seem to be cognitive ability, but declining give a ____ as I get older. It gets harder to focus and maintain the same level of book proficiency when I seem to care less every year.
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Old 11-15-2020 | 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
The sim and flying has always been like a bicycle to me as well, and I find that the book work requires more focus as I age. My problem doesn’t seem to be cognitive ability, but declining give a ____ as I get older. It gets harder to focus and maintain the same level of book proficiency when I seem to care less every year.
Beautiful!
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Old 11-15-2020 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Huell
Beautiful!
I’m starting to sound like an aging widebody FO that has no interest in being a captain until I can hold the good European trips........ oh wait, I’ve been that guy for years. Being a NB captain flying multiple legs a day, dealing with the passenger and flight attendant drama, short layovers, and unproductive trips sounds too much like work. Hopefully the long haul flying will come back before this LOA terminates so that I don’t have to upgrade just to avoid NB FO pay.
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Old 11-17-2020 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets
it won’t affect training at all. There are 3 MAX sims sitting and doing nothing. All training will be done in those. Once all 737 pilots are trained in those 3 sims the amount of normal training that can be done will go way up.

since we didn’t furlough the instructor group there are more than enough instructors to handle it.
Exactly- Filler to allow post to be long enough
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Old 11-17-2020 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
I’m starting to sound like an aging widebody FO that has no interest in being a captain until I can hold the good European trips........ oh wait, I’ve been that guy for years. Being a NB captain flying multiple legs a day, dealing with the passenger and flight attendant drama, short layovers, and unproductive trips sounds too much like work. Hopefully the long haul flying will come back before this LOA terminates so that I don’t have to upgrade just to avoid NB FO pay.
I’m glad you know you wouldn’t enjoy dealing with what NB captains must. I wish more of our pilots knew their personality limitations and would refrain from trying to manage when it is clear they cannot.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 04:08 AM
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After 18 months the 737 MAX finally certified by FAA to fly again. They'll start training the trainers in Dec. CBTs and sims for all starting in Jan.
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Old 11-18-2020 | 04:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Hedley
The best job in the world is the one that you get paid not to do. I’d rather the company be printing money and expanding like we did last year, but this has basically been an 8 month FBO. I don’t miss flying or commuting, and sitting at home non-qual is definitely the best place to ride this out.
Agreed and I’d prefer to have a vaccine before jumping back into the sea of ignorance.
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