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Originally Posted by TodKindrsChikun
(Post 3165082)
Don’t conflate the misquote with the discussion at hand.
The point of your entire post was hypocrisy on the part of LeeFXDWG's post.... which Lee didn't make. I did. |
Originally Posted by Scoop
(Post 3164798)
The CARES act totally muddied the water on the standard furlough plan and a new solution was needed.
If you’re making the case that an extra-contractual approach to the pandemic was warranted, these recent votes prove you’re among the majority. But I fail to see how CARES could be a necessitating factor. |
Originally Posted by mmm123
(Post 3165159)
Not a fan of the person you are talking about, but the rest of ot is not true.
What a man DOES speaks so loudly that I can’t hear what he SAYS. |
Originally Posted by Huell
(Post 3165359)
If you say so ... doesn’t alter what happened or how.
What a man DOES speaks so loudly that I can’t hear what he SAYS. |
Originally Posted by HuggyU2
(Post 3165255)
Not to worry... I'm not conflating anything from your post #71.
The point of your entire post was hypocrisy on the part of LeeFXDWG's post.... which Lee didn't make. I did. That does not add to the discussion of whether or not the MEC message was a sell job of an already ratified and implemented LOA. Comparisons have always been side by side contractual language DURING the ratification process without “independent SMEs” assigning spiffy winners and losers green check marks and red X’s. |
Originally Posted by mmm123
(Post 3165376)
Do you know how many striking Continental pilots were in that group? You are saying they were crossing picket lines? Please give me a break.
They were hired to cross a picket line. They knew what they were doing. ALPA intervened ... held their hand and kept all but 6 from crossing. Most I have flown with were ok to fly with. Some were nut cases that never would have been hired sans the upcoming strike. Many boasted how they ‘saved’ the airline. Late 84 I was approached and handed an app ... I challenged the guy about UAL hiring for a strike. He confirmed it. UAL was always my first choice ... but not like that. In the end you can’t change the facts. Spin it however you need to to ensure you feel better. |
Jamie did a great job with the hospitality room. Good guy.
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Originally Posted by Huell
(Post 3165497)
Ok ... how many. Give me a number.
They were hired to cross a picket line. They knew what they were doing. ALPA intervened ... held their hand and kept all but 6 from crossing. Most I have flown with were ok to fly with. Some were nut cases that never would have been hired sans the upcoming strike. Many boasted how they ‘saved’ the airline. Late 84 I was approached and handed an app ... I challenged the guy about UAL hiring for a strike. He confirmed it. UAL was always my first choice ... but not like that. In the end you can’t change the facts. Spin it however you need to to ensure you feel better. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3165323)
Muddied the water? CARES simply provided 6 months of income security for those who would otherwise be on the street- if anything, giving them more time to prepare for the “standard furlough plan”.
If you’re making the case that an extra-contractual approach to the pandemic was warranted, these recent votes prove you’re among the majority. But I fail to see how CARES could be a necessitating factor. By muddied the water I am talking about the typical historical approach which would have quickly resulted in hundreds if not thousands of furloughs. By saying "who would have otherwise been on the street" you are essentially agreeing with me. The airlines realized the standard furlough option was not viable for a few reasons and had to think outside the box - thus the extra contractual approach by DAL and UAL that some are very critical of. Some would have preferred furloughs but CARES very much limited that option. I am not saying CAREs was not beneficial for crew members - it was very helpful. Scoop |
Originally Posted by oldmako
(Post 3165205)
Not Garry. This place just loves to hoist up a boogeyman the minute anyone strays from the reservation and suggests that we could have done better.
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