Congratulations Delta
11-25-2020, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by N6279P
Meanwhile they have canceled over 100 flights tomorrow due to lack of flight crews.
And DALs mgmt is at always has been at the burn trigger to terminate it before it passed. Stand by for more from our MEC on this. Best of luck to my DALPA brothers and sisters.
Winner is determined at the finish line. We are just barely out of the starting blocks with this relative to the industry.
Let’s see where we all are 6 to 12 months down the road.
Based on my numerous interactions helping pilots out, y’all only look at section 3 compensation when a new contract comes out. Not the really important stuff then ***** about it when it bites you.
I have to give a poorly crafted vote to their LOA. It’s always in the details.
But keep looking at how green the grass is. Despite being green right now, it’s spray painted.
11-25-2020, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
solid wins for all portions of the pilot group.
11-25-2020, 01:26 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I disagree. I don't see any real benefits or wins for myself. This is a concessionary deal. It's not as bad as United's but make no mistake, it's not a win.
Especially the part about "It's not as bad as United's."
11-25-2020, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Aviator147
solid wins for all portions of the pilot group.
Solid win for Delta management.
11-25-2020, 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I disagree. I don't see any real benefits or wins for myself. This is a concessionary deal. It's not as bad as United's but make no mistake, it's not a win.
Here's latest union email for those interested:
November 25, 2020
LOA #20-04 — Furlough Avoidance Implementation
Today, the pilot group ratified LOA #20-04 - Furlough Avoidance. With the ratification of the LOA, several changes in the PWA, as well as the status of the Affected Pilots, take effect. This Negotiators’ Notepad identifies the immediate changes and provides a timeline of the delayed implementation items.
Affected Pilots
“Affected Pilots” are defined as those pilots who have a seniority date on or after September 25, 2017, and will transition to the 30-hour “No Fly” status on December 1, 2020.
- Affected Pilots currently in “Unassigned” status will continue to receive compensation in accordance with the current PWA through November 30, 2020.
- Affected Pilots who are still in category for the November bid period will have “FURL” removed from their line and finish out the remainder of the month active in their category with their originally published schedule.
Affected Pilots currently on a leave of absence (MLOA, PLOA, etc.) will continue to remain on such leaves until the end of their leave or upon approval for their early return. If pilots on leave desire to return early, they should exercise the steps found in PWA Section 13. Any difficulties in returning from leave should be reported to your ALPA representative immediately.
Affected Pilots who do not wish to be contactable under the terms of LOA #20-04, and would like to decline being placed on a 30-hour No Fly status with benefits provided by the LOA, may notify the Company of their preference to take a PLOA within seven days of ratification (November 26 – December 2).
Affected Pilots, except those on a leave of absence, are reminded they have an obligation to monitor Company communications for potential information regarding return to service.
Positive Space Commuting
Positive Space Commuting begins today. Pilots are now permitted to book positive space using the “Company Business” booking tool found on TravelNet under the same terms as travel to/from training, both to AND from their work assignment. Pilots experiencing difficulty in listing for a flight should contact Pilot Assist, and if sales are available, they will assist you in booking.
Positive Space Commuting will be available for no less than 13 full bid periods beginning with the December 2020 bid period. As a reminder, one flight (or sequence of flights if multi-leg) arriving prior to sign-in meets the commuting policy requirement, and no “backup flight” is needed under this provision.
Green Slip Trigger
The permanent change in the Green Slip (GS) trigger becomes effective at the beginning of the December 2020 bid period. The GS trigger will change to the lesser of 72 hours or ALV minus five (5).
Targeted Line Value
The temporary window for the Targeted Line Value (TLV) will begin with the January 2021 bid period. The new TLV window is 72-80 hours, and all positions must remain within a five-hour range within that window. This temporary change to the TLV window will run through the end of the December 2021 bid period unless extended under Paragraph 8. of LOA #20-04 (CARES Act extension.) Should a CARES Act extension occur (or government assistance under any other name), the TLV will revert to the current contractual limit of 75 - 80 hours during the term of the extension.
The permanent reduction to the TLV (to 73-78 hours) will become effective with the first bid period after the termination of the temporary TLV.
Improvements to the ARCOS system
Effective with the December 2020 bid period
- All GS and “same day/next day” white slip awards become “proffers” (thereby allowing a pilot to reject either the offer or the award of such rotations without any obligation)
- “Same day/next day” white slip award notification will now occur via ARCOS
Effective with the January 2021 bid period.
- Maximum batch size limits are now in place
- Pilots may choose to auto acknowledge rotations during the “offer window”
- Pilots may choose to auto acknowledge rotations during the “award window” (for rotations with more than 12 hours from initial contact until report time)
- Penalties if batch sizes are violated
- Password expiration extended to 365 days until the Company implements single sign-on
Effective no later than the July 2021 bid period
- Amending of preferences after the offer window but prior to the award window will not alter a pilot’s standing in the current batch
Market Based Cash Balance Plan (MBCBP)
The time periods specified in LOA #20-04 Paragraph 5. E. 2. & E. 3. begin today. The Association and the Company will begin the regulatory approval process as well as developing the plan document within the required time limitations.
Pilots may reference Negotiators’ Notepad 20-12 and Negotiators’ Notepad 20-13 for answers to questions. Additional questions should be directed to your ALPA representative.
Fly Safe,
Chad, Eric, Brandon, and Rich
This is a product of the Delta MEC Negotiating Committee
Air Line Pilots Association, International
11-26-2020, 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
I disagree. I don't see any real benefits or wins for myself. This is a concessionary deal. It's not as bad as United's but make no mistake, it's not a win.
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