Congratulations Delta
11-26-2020, 08:19 AM
#11
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
Posts: 643
Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Except the pilots who were displaced to lower paying positions are not pay protected for a couple years like we are. Plus they didn’t get any SCOPE gets like we did (thousands of express flights a month back to mainline). Looks like they get to pay a bunch of pilots less but they gave everyone at the company 2 free passes paid for by the pilot group.
Solid win for Delta management.
Solid win for Delta management.
11-26-2020, 09:14 AM
#13
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Joined APC: Dec 2007
Position: DAL 330
Posts: 6,868
Our deal is a huge win. It’s not perfect, but mainly solid gains and the only give is some Pilots will temporarily have a lower guarantee, at most about 3 hours a month maximum. Narrow body guys may see zero decrease. While positive space commuting to and from base is also temporary- 12 months minimum, we received a bunch of permanent gains including a productivity win and a permanent lowering of the premium pay trigger.
For some guys every day is a rainy day but when our Pilots evaluated this deal it passed overwhelmingly which means the majority Pilots both senior and junior approved it.
Happy Turkey day all!
Scoop
For some guys every day is a rainy day but when our Pilots evaluated this deal it passed overwhelmingly which means the majority Pilots both senior and junior approved it.
Happy Turkey day all!
Scoop
11-26-2020, 09:42 AM
#14
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Joined APC: Feb 2006
Position: B737 CAPT IAH
Posts: 1,130
Originally Posted by Aviator147
have you read the full LOA? And I wasn't comparing the DL deal to the United deal. Its great that you keep your current payrate. There's solid wins in the Delta LOA for the long term. The DL deal passed by a large majority. Don't forget the 1800 pilots who took an early retirement at their locked in payrates.
11-26-2020, 10:46 AM
#15
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Joined APC: Jan 2009
Posts: 341
Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Except the pilots who were displaced to lower paying positions are not pay protected for a couple years like we are. Plus they didn’t get any SCOPE gets like we did (thousands of express flights a month back to mainline). Looks like they get to pay a bunch of pilots less but they gave everyone at the company 2 free passes paid for by the pilot group.
Solid win for Delta management.
Solid win for Delta management.
11-26-2020, 12:23 PM
#16
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Joined APC: May 2006
Posts: 840
Originally Posted by FriendlyPilot
Except the pilots who were displaced to lower paying positions are not pay protected for a couple years like we are. Plus they didn’t get any SCOPE gets like we did (thousands of express flights a month back to mainline). Looks like they get to pay a bunch of pilots less but they gave everyone at the company 2 free passes paid for by the pilot group.
Solid win for Delta management.
Solid win for Delta management.
11-26-2020, 02:49 PM
#17
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Joined APC: Jul 2015
Posts: 859
Originally Posted by Scoop
Our deal is a huge win. It’s not perfect, but mainly solid gains and the only give is some Pilots will temporarily have a lower guarantee, at most about 3 hours a month maximum. Narrow body guys may see zero decrease. While positive space commuting to and from base is also temporary- 12 months minimum, we received a bunch of permanent gains including a productivity win and a permanent lowering of the premium pay trigger.
For some guys every day is a rainy day but when our Pilots evaluated this deal it passed overwhelmingly which means the majority Pilots both senior and junior approved it.
Happy Turkey day all!
Scoop
For some guys every day is a rainy day but when our Pilots evaluated this deal it passed overwhelmingly which means the majority Pilots both senior and junior approved it.
Happy Turkey day all!
Scoop
Once again, great work by both groups.
11-26-2020, 08:51 PM
#18
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Joined APC: Nov 2016
Posts: 1,305
Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
Not casting stones, kudos to all. However, I don't know the terminology but weren't your line values scheduled to go up significantly starting next month due to the low summer schedules? After a few months I agree with the 3 hours but in the meantime..... Coupla bucks.
Once again, great work by both groups.
Once again, great work by both groups.
11-26-2020, 09:12 PM
#19
Get me outta here...
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: Boeing right seat
Posts: 1,541
Originally Posted by LumberJack
I've always found 18-19 days off is the sweet spot for a happy life. This LOA brings us ever so slightly closer to that on average.
11-27-2020, 06:24 AM
#20
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 488
Originally Posted by reCALcitrant
BS. I’ve got guys 2000 numbers junior pay protected. I’ve got guys 2000 numbers junior flying 90 while I get a line with 25 hours and mpg of 53. This is a sh1t deal.
My precise heartache with this deal....the guys who we threw a lifeline to are feasting on Filet Mignon and Cristal, and the rest of us are paying for it.
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