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Old 02-05-2021 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by oznog
Let it go....

Are you trying to win an internet argument? Who cares what we get paid for training? We make tons of money training aside. We are still killing it despite Covid or training. Cares money had been awesome. Regardless of what vacation or training pays We still make boatloads of $$$$$. Stop complaining!
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Old 02-05-2021 | 07:51 PM
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"My neighbor would do this job for free!!!"






*** Of course, he doesn't know how to fly. And doesn't have even the most basic awareness of what's required to obtain the minimums quals to even apply for this job.
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Old 02-06-2021 | 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
"My neighbor would do this job for free!!!"






*** Of course, he doesn't know how to fly. And doesn't have even the most basic awareness of what's required to obtain the minimums quals to even apply for this job.
As the saying goes: “If you’re good at something, never do it for free.”
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Old 02-06-2021 | 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by flightmedic01
As the saying goes: “If you’re good at something, never do it for free.”
I like this saying better:

“A man makes his own way. No one gives it to you. You have to take it. "Non serviam."

-Frank Costello
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Old 02-06-2021 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JoePatroni
I like this saying better:

“A man makes his own way. No one gives it to you. You have to take it. "Non serviam."

-Frank Costello
You are worth what you can get paid.

As a corollary, you only get paid what you can negotiate, or have the leverage for.
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Old 02-08-2021 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by oldmako
"My neighbor would do this job for free!!!"






*** Of course, he doesn't know how to fly. And doesn't have even the most basic awareness of what's required to obtain the minimums quals to even apply for this job.
Funny. Pre-COVID, during the “pilot shortage”, I watched a few older GA guys try to make a run at the airline gig. They’d all made their nut lawyering, selling, trading or whatever, had a couple thousand hours in their Cherokee or Baron. Kids were out of the house and the wife was tired of their retirement plan.

They all quit after a few months at the regionals. Turns out it wasn’t what they expected. Some didn’t make it through training. These were guys who had some awareness of flying, but not the ancillary BS that makes up 95% of the job. Apparently a professional dude that has spent some time in the world doesn’t have a lot of tolerance with getting jerked around by the high-school graduate working in scheduling.
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Old 02-09-2021 | 03:23 AM
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Originally Posted by NuGuy
Funny. Pre-COVID, during the “pilot shortage”, I watched a few older GA guys try to make a run at the airline gig. They’d all made their nut lawyering, selling, trading or whatever, had a couple thousand hours in their Cherokee or Baron. Kids were out of the house and the wife was tired of their retirement plan.

They all quit after a few months at the regionals. Turns out it wasn’t what they expected. Some didn’t make it through training. These were guys who had some awareness of flying, but not the ancillary BS that makes up 95% of the job. Apparently a professional dude that has spent some time in the world doesn’t have a lot of tolerance with getting jerked around by the high-school graduate working in scheduling.
Ironically, I saw this happen in the opposite direction multiple times during the dark decade. RJ guys who got sick of the BS, left the regionals & got a real job only to come back after a few years. Couldn’t handle the daily commute in traffic, the office drudgery, bringing work home at night.

At the end of the day, we’re all just shoveling sh**. Your stack isn’t necessarily any higher than anyone else’s, but we often condition ourselves to do it a certain way.
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Old 02-09-2021 | 06:24 AM
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Pre far 117 and the 8 hr overnight (block in to show) in some dump in the middle of nowhere to fly 5 leg 6 hr day with a cat rancher / mentally ill flight attendant and a captain who was too eccentric to get a better gig only to get to do a 10 hr overnight in the butthole of Texas that night... regional flying was really hit or miss but when it missed it would change your perspective of this career.
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Old 02-09-2021 | 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Pre far 117 and the 8 hr overnight (block in to show) in some dump in the middle of nowhere to fly 5 leg 6 hr day with a cat rancher / mentally ill flight attendant and a captain who was too eccentric to get a better gig only to get to do a 10 hr overnight in the butthole of Texas that night... regional flying was really hit or miss but when it missed it would change your perspective of this career.
OMG you brought back some serious nightmares with that story! 🤣
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Old 02-09-2021 | 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Aquaticus
Pre far 117 and the 8 hr overnight (block in to show) in some dump in the middle of nowhere to fly 5 leg 6 hr day with a cat rancher / mentally ill flight attendant and a captain who was too eccentric to get a better gig only to get to do a 10 hr overnight in the butthole of Texas that night... regional flying was really hit or miss but when it missed it would change your perspective of this career.
Yeah, I’ve got years worth of those stories, too. Yet I’m still here & so are you. So either we were too stupid to do anything about it, or it wasn’t/isn’t actually THAT bad.

Possibly some some combination of the two, in my case...
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