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Old 02-13-2021 | 06:05 AM
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It's not a taxing issue
it's a spending issue
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Old 02-13-2021 | 06:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Jersey
It's not a taxing issue
it's a spending issue
It’s both. If government passes punitive tax codes, businesses will relocate to better environments and take the jobs (taxable incomes) with them.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 06:55 AM
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No its not
one solution solves the problem
Don't spend more than you make
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Old 02-13-2021 | 11:54 AM
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No its not
one solution solves the problem
Don't spend more than you make
That's astute advice for households and local governments, but not for governments who utilize a fiat currency. If our federal government spends less that it takes in (through taxation) then where are they getting that surplus from? From net private savings, that is where. It cannot come from anywhere else.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 01:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Jersey
No its not
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Don't spend more than you make
There are two different problems. One is a tax system that enables political corruption and penalizes individual and business success. The other is a government that spends money like a drunken sailor.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 02:13 PM
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Tax consumption. It should cost nothing to make money; tax what you buy and you think twice before you spend.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 02:25 PM
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Tax consumption. It should cost nothing to make money; tax what you buy and you think twice before you spend.
That’s the basis of the Fair Tax movement, but that would require politicians to vote to remove a major source of money and power. Several years ago a state politician was supporting the idea during an election. The people running against him ran adds about how he wanted to eliminate the child tax credit and mortgage deduction, they left out the part about eliminating income taxes completely. Like I said earlier, a politician will slit their wrist with support for a consumption tax about the time that we lobby to end cabotage restrictions.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by FAAFlyer
That's astute advice for households and local governments, but not for governments who utilize a fiat currency. If our federal government spends less that it takes in (through taxation) then where are they getting that surplus from? From net private savings, that is where. It cannot come from anywhere else.
So what your saying is budget surpluses are a bad thing.
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Old 02-13-2021 | 03:25 PM
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So what your saying is budget surpluses are a bad thing.
Yes, exactly!

But only at a level where the government itself creates the money. So at a local or state level the budgets do have to be balanced. Also, households need to balance their budgets (or should balance them).
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Old 02-13-2021 | 03:48 PM
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Well then we're in great shape. The fed can just pay everyone's bills because it doesn't matter how much they go in the red. Your drinking the MMT kool-aid.
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