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Originally Posted by 1257 (Post 3219056)

Surely you're joking about the generalization that United pilots tell black people how they are
since the people posting here could be 15 year olds in their Mom's basements. You are joking right?

There's a reason he flies for spirit...

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Originally Posted by XJ86 (Post 3219217)

There's a reason he flies for spirit...

Let’s hear it.

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Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3219015)

The pandering won’t stop. It’s going to get worse. So much for the “no special treatment” argument.... Meanwhile, Captains who’ve been at the company for 30+ years retired early last year after being enticed to do so to protect the younger folks from being furloughed. They retired without so much as a wink. Certainly, no water cannon salute.
https://i.postimg.cc/Hk8tPkTw/849-EE...6-AB33-EFE.jpg

that’s not true at all I got a water cannon salute in ORD for a CA that went early. United positive spaced his entire family on the flight.

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Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3219080)

Aren't you unintentionally arguing in favor of the Aviate initiative? United is not creating a hiring quota through this program as you are implying. They are committing to providing training opportunities to a certain number of people who will then have the opportunity to interview for a job with United. There are no guaranteed jobs. Basically, they are investing at the zero to CFI level to ensure more diversity among the field of competent and qualified applicants they have to choose from. If you're really all for "pour[ing] all your efforts into expanding equality of opportunity" like you claim, it seems like you'd be all for this.

I was arguing against CantTaxiToACS’s view in favor for racial quotas in hiring not necessarily against the Aviate initiative!

I still never seen an all male flight. Now that is rare and would deserve a water cannon.

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Originally Posted by hummingbear (Post 3219080)

There is/will be a process to compete for Aviate. The way it is advertised is that it will not be an equality of opportunity to participate. 50% of those accepted into the program will have more of an opportunity than the other 50%. You confusing two separate issues.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3219234)

that’s not true at all I got a water cannon salute in ORD for a CA that went early. United positive spaced his entire family on the flight.

I did a retirement flight for a CA out of SFO....The company positive spaced his entire family.....and then reassigned him. This was pre-Covid. What a kick in the teeth on your way out the door.

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Originally Posted by MasterOfPuppets (Post 3219234)

that’s not true at all I got a water cannon salute in ORD for a CA that went early. United positive spaced his entire family on the flight.

SFO has not done water cannon for at least 3 years. Why? Answer is the water shortage. City won’t let them.

Recently retired Captain (2 weeks before the glorious all female flight) did not get one in DEN because it was “too cold, (41 degrees).

Fact checks, this was purely a marketing move by UAL. Considering the fact, yes fact, UAL has been giving preferential hiring since 1978 to minorities and females, because of 1976 legal action (which is still being brought up these days, see link below). In my opinion the problem is there isn’t a very big pool of qualified applicants to fill those slots.

And lest anyone complain they are being left out, in the 90s UAL changed their flight time experience requirements to give a greater weight to single seat fighter types because of the difference in accumulated flight hours with heavy transport types.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/black-p...ited-airlines/

Like COVID, this kind of stuff will never end. Probably going to revisit the age discrimination lawsuit again.

BTW, I believe this wasn’t the “first” all female flight crew. I seem to remember such a thing made the Company news years go. But maybe this time they arrange so the rest of the staff was also all female and that’s what makes it something special. So, were they (as in a generic non-binary kind of “they”) on time? That’s really all the customers care about.:confused:

Found it! From 2016. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/united-...-women-pilots/

Was the public lied to yesterday?

Outsider looking in.

So the “problem” is that in 5 years or so there may be a slight increase in the percentages of women and minorities hired on behind you guys on the seniority list?

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Originally Posted by baseball (Post 3219187)

Good question. The way I "heard it" on the news interview was that only minority candidates may receive scholarships. Poor white people are not eligible since they lack a minority classification.

Which is racist.