Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3219342)

Yeah, just like the Navy never said they were lowering training standards.....

“Guys like you have to make sure there’s only one standard. If people let me slide through on a lower standard, it’s my life on the line. I could get killed.” –Lt. Kara Hultgreen, USN

We just don't learn.

Originally Posted by idlethrust (Post 3219333)

They never said they were lowering training standards. Everyone has to cut the mustard, no matter who you are .
Besides minorities have been discriminated against since forever , everyone knows that , in every way possible.
Maybe it’s time to level the playing field.
Do your job and you’ll have nothing to worry about, this is giving opportunities to those coming up in the ranks long after all of you are long gone probably.
Its a different day and time , get over it , go have a beer , make love to your girlfriend or wife , or boyfriend, or husband, depending on your sexual preference and orientation and don’t worry about it .

Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3219039)

Nah next will be an all tranny crew with another drag show at the gate. It’s what the customers care about after all.

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 3219355)

Kirby was making good progress in repairing the relationships and trust in flight ops by demonstrating a knack for going after the competition. Now, it seems Kirby wants to run a social justice flying club instead of a highly competent and highly mission/profit focused airline dedicated solely to the safety of our crews and passengers.

The stockholders are saying what exactly......

Remember that so-called "hostile take over" that management was scared of a year ago when they did the stock buy-back?

Maybe a hostile take over isn't a bad thing. Maybe we could get a management team that is focused on operational metrics instead of social justice metrics??

Kirby washed out of USAF pilot training. Why? He couldn't meet standards....Now, he wants to lower them for everyone? Lets type him in a 777 and make him honorary Captain and send him off to Shanghai to fly some revenue trips.

Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest (Post 3217881)

As a white male, I’ve spent the last 22 years flying with 99 % white males. I’ve run out of things to talk about and welcome the diversity this might bring to a flight deck I’m a member of. As long as they are qualified to be in the seat, being them on. The difficult part of this ambitious goal (at least 2500 non white males trained/placed at United Express carriers and ultimately United Airlines over the next 10 years) is finding those individuals and steering them in our direction (through Aviate). We won’t be the only carrier trying to attract these underrepresented future pilots. I hope our Aviate group is looking into junior high visits etc where career decisions are often formed because we are really going to need a ton of interest in order to see 2,500 success stories in ten years.

Over the years I’ve noticed a trend. During boarding, young people (age 6-15) traveling with their parents may or may not be interested in stopping by the flight deck for a quick tour and pic and their parents often direct the interest. White parents are far more prone to nudge their kid into the cockpit for a tour. I’ve noticed several parents that were non-white smile at my offer but say things like “he/she doesn’t need to be up there bothering you, or are you serious?” Non- white people don’t often know pilots personally and therefore aren’t as comfortable walking into a strange work environment while a larger percentage of whites do know or have airline pilots in their lives and feel more comfortable interacting with them in this setting. A cockpit visit confirmed my desire to do this for a living. I was around 6.

Originally Posted by biggun (Post 3219355)

Kirby was making good progress in repairing the relationships and trust in flight ops by demonstrating a knack for going after the competition. Now, it seems Kirby wants to run a social justice flying club instead of a highly competent and highly mission/profit focused airline dedicated solely to the safety of our crews and passengers.

Originally Posted by Barley (Post 3219364)

My goodness, look at all you social and network media addicts. Well guys, I hate to break it to you, but United's AVIATE tweet was just good marketing. The tweet you're all hung up didn't contain anything controversial, but you can always count on your favorite media sources to re-interpret a message to reaffirm your biases and invent outrage. Stop taking the bait.

To any candidate applying to Aviate know this: I (and the majority of us) are excited to see this exceptional opportunity for our future aviators; moreover, we are looking forward to working alongside the people that make it through all the training and requirements.

Originally Posted by JurgenKlopp (Post 3219426)

Ditto. And I guarantee you none of these keyboard warriors will have the stones to call someone less qualified in a face to face conversation. This thread is great justification for the only prejudice I’ve developed thanks to this career. I can’t suppress a groan when I see older white men rocking Kirklands and white kicks. Def wardrobe of choice for a bunch on this thread.