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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 3219603)
I don't feel attacked, but much of this forum revolves around spirited debate over aviation issues. I haven't said anything you yourself haven't said many times. Baseball is a grown man, he can deal.
In this vain I see that people are considering my factual defense of a position as some sort of crossing of a cultural 'red line' Bemoaning SJWs, reverse racism, anti-white racism and the implied inferiority of women or POC is OK (reminding you that just a few posts ago someone said this job isn't for everyone) but I have struck a nerve of the defenseless, much attacked and wrongly harmed mainline widebody captain, threatened by my defense of the opening of a new flight school that is recruiting minorities. Anyway, I looked in the mirror a second time. Still needs to be said, if United recruiting women or (god forbid black women!) scares you, maybe it's time to join Mako in FL and leave the profession to the rest of us. |
I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
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Originally Posted by AAL763
(Post 3219527)
In case anyone was wondering if ALPA would be a voice of reason....
https://www.flightglobal.com/strateg...qLyEA8.twitter |
Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
(Post 3219647)
I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
For example this white male came from a middle class background paid for it all myself every step of the way with no help and you want to know how many times I saw a flight deck? Well I'll put it this way day one of airline ground I found out they use a tiller to steer. the fallacy of race and sex is a leftist distort in reality |
Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
(Post 3219529)
If providing scholarships for people of color is racist, then consider me one.
I don't support race quotas and did not reference them in my post, so maybe go back and reread what I posted. I'm not sure who YOU people is. I'm not running this program. I'm just able to read and understand english, unlike Baseball. (who should retire) |
Originally Posted by XJ86
(Post 3219651)
Wrong every female had the same opportunity as every male. every race had the same opportunity as whites. It comes down to drove dedication and exploration for career choices.
For example this white male came from a middle class background paid for it all myself every step of the way with no help and you want to know how many times I saw a flight deck? Well I'll put it this way day one of airline ground I found out they use a tiller to steer. the fallacy of race and sex is a leftist distort in reality thats cute. It’s not about opportunity. It’s about seeing themselves in a position that historically has been dominated by white men. This profession is accessible to everyone. You wouldn’t know it by peeking in the cockpit the last 30 years. |
Originally Posted by Bluewaffle
(Post 3219647)
I’ve got two little girls at home. Ive given hundreds of flight deck tours to kids, and even if you add them up they wouldn’t be as impactful to a little girl as seeing someone that looks like them. Why do women only make up seven percent of airline pilots? It’s probably because many of them never saw it as an option when they were growing up. It’s the same for people of color. United is going to hire the most qualified candidates. It’s going to to take them longer to find them but I’m glad we’re the ones breaking the cycle.
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Originally Posted by XJ86
(Post 3219651)
Wrong every female had the same opportunity as every male. every race had the same opportunity as whites. It comes down to drove dedication and exploration for career choices.
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"Nobody said anything about lowering standards , and I wouldn’t be surprised if someone even took offense to that statement either, because it seems as though that due to the fact that one is a person of color they must be less qualified to hold the position at hand."
If United’s hiring practices in the past were not as egalitarian as the quota they are referencing for their future hiring, that means they engaged in discrimination of females and people of color all along. Since they are claiming that all of these new hires will either meet or exceed qualifications and merit, that means one of two things: My aforementioned statement is accurate, or they are changing AKA lowering standards and merit for hiring qualifications. It is impossible on its face for one or both of these statements to be untrue. "Last I checked, there’s still a stigma about black people, if there wasn’t one wouldnt of mentioned anything about “lowering standards”." Funny how you revert to "black people" when none of United's statement referenced black people in particular. Who is projecting stigmas, again? Fact of the matter is its inherent to lower standards and/or merit to make a concerted effort to hire 1/2 of your work force to meet a female/person of color quota. If there was no lowering of standards, the people of color and women would be there at United already. To suggest otherwise denies logic and is moronic. "Vent on here I guess, because you never would do it in front of them because you’d scatter like roaches and we’d all be hearing crickets." Why would anyone dare question a modern day, woke premise? So they could be branded a racist, misogynist white privileged bigot and be suspended without pay while they attend "sensitivity/diversity training, if they are not outright fired and have their career and life ruined? There is nothing progressive or equal about this absurd PR move by United - and PR move is exactly what it is. Hiring people based on their genitalia or color of their skin is the exact opposite of progress and is fundamentally bigoted. To apply this type of logic and hiring practice to a major airline, well...there is only so much an AP can do. |
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