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Oletimer 05-12-2021 11:29 AM


Originally Posted by Airhoss (Post 3232893)
Saying a scab “won”, is like saying a rapist is a ladies man.

Most of them have had long careers.
I think they did win. They played the game the wrong way. But ALPA's lack of leadership, combined with acceptance and promotion by union busting management teams in conjunction with scab-friendly courts have paid the scabs well. They did win, and it stinks. They are laughing all the way to the bank. They don't care what the profession at large thinks of them. Heck, they didn't care what their peers thought of them when they crossed the line, and they sure don't care what we think of them today.
All I can say is a big FU on their way out the door.

Guppydriver95 05-12-2021 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by Oletimer (Post 3233977)
Most of them have had long careers.
I think they did win. They played the game the wrong way. But ALPA's lack of leadership, combined with acceptance and promotion by union busting management teams in conjunction with scab-friendly courts have paid the scabs well. They did win, and it stinks. They are laughing all the way to the bank. They don't care what the profession at large thinks of them. Heck, they didn't care what their peers thought of them when they crossed the line, and they sure don't care what we think of them today.
All I can say is a big FU on their way out the door.

Thankfully they’ve been run out of all management positions, It’s also fun to deny those dirtbags the Jumpseat. Watching them cry to management after the merger when they were being shown the door when they would try to weasel a ride was quite entertaining. They were told too damn bad, it’s the Captain’s Jumpseat.

Machsp 05-19-2021 07:54 AM

Sucks to be discriminated uh
 
All of a sudden everyone is feeling attacked. You keep saying "this is discrimination in reverse". Let's say this is in fact discrimination against white male pilots, how does that feel? If this doesn't help you to open your mind and help you speak up when you see discrimination against other groups, I don't know what will.

Regularguy 05-19-2021 09:16 AM


Originally Posted by Machsp (Post 3237100)
All of a sudden everyone is feeling attacked. You keep saying "this is discrimination in reverse". Let's say this is in fact discrimination against white male pilots, how does that feel? If this doesn't help you to open your mind and help you speak up when you see discrimination against other groups, I don't know what will.

Not speaking about general discrimination in the USA, but UAL has for over 40 years (since 1978) done its best to hire pilots and FAs without discrimination, and frankly to extend preferential hiring based on ethnicity, race, sex, age and gender. The numbers speak for them themselves and to say other wise is to be blind or worse, out right telling a lie.

Machsp 05-19-2021 12:31 PM


Originally Posted by Regularguy (Post 3237158)
Not speaking about general discrimination in the USA, but UAL has for over 40 years (since 1978) done its best to hire pilots and FAs without discrimination, and frankly to extend preferential hiring based on ethnicity, race, sex, age and gender. The numbers speak for them themselves and to say other wise is to be blind or worse, out right telling a lie.

Fair enough.

Oletimer 05-19-2021 07:45 PM


Originally Posted by Guppydriver95 (Post 3233998)
Thankfully they’ve been run out of all management positions, It’s also fun to deny those dirtbags the Jumpseat. Watching them cry to management after the merger when they were being shown the door when they would try to weasel a ride was quite entertaining. They were told too damn bad, it’s the Captain’s Jumpseat.

Yes sir. Well put. The pfriends of pfred are just about all gone. Those that remain are all marginalized. A few like Muir got a cush job. In total shock that Muir ever held a union position. Others too.

tommy2times 05-20-2021 08:09 AM

This is great news for all, vanilla got really dull!

Furloughedboi 05-20-2021 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by Machsp (Post 3237100)
All of a sudden everyone is feeling attacked. You keep saying "this is discrimination in reverse". Let's say this is in fact discrimination against white male pilots, how does that feel? If this doesn't help you to open your mind and help you speak up when you see discrimination against other groups, I don't know what will.

What are talking about? Name one normal person who supports discrimination (who isn’t a leftist or white supremacist).
Go ahead I’ll wait.

Only the left cares so much about race or gender

baseball 05-23-2021 06:59 AM

So, is OBAP getting what they want?

Free money for flight training with no strings and no requirements to pay the money back? Zero interest loans for their peeps?

sleeves 05-23-2021 07:09 AM


Originally Posted by tommy2times;[url=tel:3237735
3237735[/url]]This is great news for all, vanilla got really dull!

It has been open to all the flavors for decades. It is not easy, nor should it be, but any race has the opportunity now. Why are we making it easier for some and harder for others solely based on race and gender.


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