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Originally Posted by Flydafe
(Post 3222331)
It’s a new day my man. Just a few years ago the regionals couldn’t find enough applicants. Technology has really made the process more efficient. These kids are at home flying virtual airlines in A380s and triples in Virtual as well as augmented reality. Had one show me how to start the gpu. He was in his early teens. He didn’t know the flows but knew the General concepts. For them the whole set up is simplified because they were born in to technology. All us old heads need to do is mentor them when they sit in that right seat. Someone did it for us. We are tradesmen
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Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3222743)
I also think you are missing the point that Aviate will require an application and whatever objective criteria that application will have will somehow have a stated goal of producing 50% minority/female pilots.
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Originally Posted by Oletimer
(Post 3222594)
if anyone wants to come to this profession they can come and compete for the training, for the hiring, and for the profession. No special gender biased/racial preference programs are required or needed.
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Originally Posted by detpilot
(Post 3222671)
you guys sure are uptight. I didn't really care about the lyrics... Aside from "don't rush," they weren't all that clear anyway. I certainly didn't go google them to go pick the song apart, line by line. But if that makes you happy, sure.
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Why is England’s late Prince Philip not “king” Philip if he is married to the queen?
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Originally Posted by Flydafe
(Post 3222766)
How does one compete for the training? I get the hiring one but technically it’s a pay to play kind of deal for pilot training outside of the guard and military.
Flight school resources will be limited due to demand. Many 4 year schools already limit enrollment. The students have to compete for a seat. For example, Louisiana Tech has a great aviation program. Limited enrollment to 200 students due to aircraft fleet size and instructor cadre and simulator availability. Students wishing to apply here must e compete for a seat. ACT/SAT and high school grades are used to determine if you can get in or not. Just cuz u want to fly doesn't mean you can always do it. Even if you have daddy's check book, you have to put in the work to earn your spot. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3222765)
Please go ahead and explicitly state that you believe this necessarily requires lowering those objective criteria on behalf of said minority/female candidates.
For a more direct comparison, RAND published a study in 2015 researching why minority and female USAF pilot trainees washed out at higher rates than their white male counterparts. https://www.rand.org/content/dam/ran...AND_RR1936.pdf One of the findings from this study is that nearly all of the failures between male-female and 72 percent of the failures between white-black students could be correlated to pilot aptitude tests predicting their failure. This study did not include USAFA graduates, who did not take the TBAS test. Ignoring that a lower standard to achieve such a lofty goal is a probability, ignores decades of data. |
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Originally Posted by captive apple
(Post 3222827)
Why is England’s late Prince Philip not “king” Philip if he is married to the queen?
At least his ride was sweet. |
Originally Posted by ThumbsUp
(Post 3222870)
One of the findings from this study is that nearly all of the failures between male-female and 72 percent of the failures between white-black students could be correlated to pilot aptitude tests predicting their failure. This study did not include USAFA graduates, who did not take the TBAS test.
Ignoring that a lower standard to achieve such a lofty goal is a probability, ignores decades of data. The Aviate program will only train 5,000 pilots over the next 10 years. In all likelihood, there will be far more QUALIFIED candidates than there will be available positions. You may disagree with how United chooses to select from among these QUALIFIED candidates, but the fact is, they will need to say yes to some and no to others. They have chosen to prioritize diversity in their selection process. Meaning 2,500 of those QUALIFIED candidates who get the yes will be women & minorities. (The verbiage on every official statement I’ve seen from UAL is VERY loose, and does not bind them to meet this metric if not enough qualified people apply.) Again, opinions on whether diversity should be their priority aside, the question is can they find among their many applicants 2,500 women & minorities who are equally qualified as their white male counterparts? I don’t see any reason why they wouldn’t be able to. If I’m wrong, and these candidates do wash out at a higher rate, as in the study you’ve cited, then they wash out. The program is then proven inefficient; but not reckless or dangerous. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 3222882)
Because, Monarchy
At least his ride was sweet. |
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