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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3222893)
If United were accepting training candidates who did poorly on pilot aptitude tests, or other standardized indicators, I would have a HUGE problem with that. But that’s not what’s being discussed.
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Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3222893)
but the fact is, they will need to say yes to some and no to others. They have chosen to prioritize diversity in their selection process. Meaning 2,500 of those QUALIFIED candidates who get the yes will be women & minorities. (The verbiage on every official statement I’ve seen from UAL is VERY loose, and does not bind them to meet this metric if not enough qualified people apply.) .
No one should be prioritizing "diversity" in a competitive landscape for any career, and in particular one that involves safety. When you lift up "diversity" over other more direct qualifiers, and then you focus on making your diversity candidate "qualified" you end up lowering the standards. You don't see it because you are not a professional pilot. Also, you've never had to fail someone on a stage check, check ride. Likely you've never had to take the airplane from someone in a critical phase of flight. All, and I mean (ALL) retired check airman and retired captains I have spoken to are very negative towards this approach. They have the experience and the judgment that is of a higher value than some HR persons. Many current instructors and check airman are just being quiet and aren't saying much. Gee I wonder why? The ones you know and know well and the ones you won't dare quote in front of someone else are less than enthusiastic. This stuff won't work. Waste of my profit sharing. Yours too. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3222893)
If United were accepting training candidates who did poorly on pilot aptitude tests, or other standardized indicators, I would have a HUGE problem with that. But that’s not what’s being discussed.
Your argument seems to imply that accepting the best into Aviate is secondary to race and gender. |
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Most likely one of United’s newest hires. Haha |
Originally Posted by captive apple
(Post 3222898)
That is the part i don’t understand. While he married into the royal bloodline shouldn’t he be a king?
What IS relevant is wether or not the Dutchess is Sussex will be going into AVIATE? |
So who is running checking/training standards at the flight school? Surely there will be a CCS message fishing for a director of training and standards for TK-Aviate division?
Maybe we can harvest some talent from the throngs of ex 787 training managers. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3222338)
Since this conversation keeps drifting to the idea of hiring minority pilots with reduced criteria, it bears repeating that the initiative in question is about finding minority candidates to include in the Aviate program that trains prospective candidates from zero to the career stage so that they arrive at that point equally qualified among their peers.
Hiring a woman with a wet ATP & poor flying skills over a dude w/ multiple engineering degrees & left seat heavy time has nothing to do with the Aviate diversity goal; but it is a much easier position to attack. All were living breathing proof that you only need one pilot on the flight deck. |
Originally Posted by Huell
(Post 3222987)
it worked for Meryl, Mary, and Shirley.
All were living breathing proof that you only need one pilot on the flight deck. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 3222956)
Thats not relevant.
What IS relevant is wether or not the Dutchess is Sussex will be going into AVIATE? |
Originally Posted by AAL763
(Post 3222945)
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Most likely one of United’s newest hires. Haha she cracks me up I can’t stop laughing o m g schools are now putting solos at the end of the curriculum...hopefully this isn’t true for her....wowzer |
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