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Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3220501)
It’s not a non-answer, it’s a refusal to engage with someone who isn’t interested and is eager to attack. Your sudden interest rings a bit hollow after your earlier vitriol
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Wow. Over 50 pages, in not even six days.
Who’s winning? |
Originally Posted by fasteddie800
(Post 3220550)
Wow. Over 50 pages, in not even six days.
Who’s winning? |
Originally Posted by OOfff
(Post 3220081)
These are the words of someone who had role models that looked like them.
UAL has gone after, given and promoted gender, race and cultural equality for at least 45 years. For the record check out the mix in other professions: 2019 Law School Diversity Report: JD Enrollment by Race & Ethnicity (enjuris.com) Fast Facts: Degrees conferred by race and sex (72) Labor force characteristics by race and ethnicity, 2018 : BLS Reports: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics So the question really is why isn't there a bigger pool of non-white males wanting to become airline pilots? I guess only personal prejudices and narratives is what counts these days, not the facts! |
Originally Posted by Furloughedboi
(Post 3220305)
All the people who are advocating for this type of discrimination, claiming that minorities don’t have enough role models to inspire them.
I’m a white guy. I had not a single person in my family in aviation. I always saw airplanes and thought, “I want to be a pilot one day.” Never met an airline pilot until the day I went to college for flight training. Imagine that, she was a woman. Literally didn’t matter to anyone. What mattered is she was smart, intelligent, and a great teacher. My parents never pushed me to fly; in fact they didn’t even know how to help me get a license, I had to figure it out on my own with Google. I had to work 2-3 jobs to pay for my flight training. I did it on my own and worked hard. Scholarships would have been nice, but the reality is it’s much harder for an average white male to win any of those. Wake up and expect people to take responsibility for their actions and stop trying to be a savior, for real. I’ve literally never met someone who said, “oh, I can’t be a pilot. I’m black and I don’t think black people can be pilots.” My dad was in sheet metal construction, my mom was a 2nd grade teacher. We didn’t have a lot of money. They pushed me to do well in school cuz they wanted us to have a better financial life than they did Also this idea that you can’t have role modes of a different race, what the heck? I have many black, Asian, women etc, role models. Since when did ethnicity determine a person’s ability to be a role model? Give me a break |
Originally Posted by EMAW
(Post 3220520)
Wanna donate to a non-profit that’s purpose is to expose young ladies to aviation? Know a young lady that would like to go to camp to learn about aviation? Look up Preflight Aviation Camp at preflightcamp.com.
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Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 3220565)
I declare ooofff the winner. She has resorted to the extremely intellectual and impossible to beat debate technique of “I know you are, but what am I.” and “liar liar pants on fire.” . Now if she could say it in Pig Latin and have all of her mean girl friends back her up with eye rolls and talk to the hand gestures, she’d have put a nail in this thread’s coffin! At first I thought ooof was an stubborn, spoiled, child, who was used to getting whatever she wants, but now I see that she is truly a linguistic genius of untold proportions.
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Originally Posted by BeatNavy
(Post 3220462)
If I made a racist comment, then I would expect to be called a racist, as I explained here. A mod deleted the original comment, so I rewrote the post, essentially saying the same thing, but not using the offensive and triggering R word. But the point stands. Your original comment that someone has to “look like them” in order to be their role model is a _____ comment (insert unoffensive word of your choice that means “judging people by their skin color”). And if you believe that you can only look up to people who “look like you,” then how would you describe yourself....tolerant? Woke? Anti-______?
I think it's perfectly acceptable to think the Tuskegee Airmen inspired black youth. Perfectly acceptable to think that if United's goals are achieved it will inspire girls and black youth. The discusion of how to achieve that goal, or if it can be achieved is separate from who will be inspired. If you needed a job, would you be inspired to work for? Would it be Emirates if you saw or heard they hire at least 50% expats? What if you saw or heard only French nationals work for AirFrance? What if AirFrance reported they had 1% expats on property but have no stated goals of who to hire to avoid upsetting French nationals? |
Originally Posted by Happyflyer
(Post 3220702)
Maybe your trying to pin him down to hard to prove a point and not discuss to learn.
I think it's perfectly acceptable to think the Tuskegee Airmen inspired black youth. Perfectly acceptable to think that if United's goals are achieved it will inspire girls and black youth. The discusion of how to achieve that goal, or if it can be achieved is separate from who will be inspired. If you needed a job, would you be inspired to work for Emirates if you saw or heard they hire expats? What if you saw or heard only French nationals work for AirFrance, what if Air France reported they had 1% expats? Inspired much? |
Originally Posted by Airhoss
(Post 3220565)
I declare ooofff the winner. She has resorted to the extremely intellectual and impossible to beat debate technique of “I know you are, but what am I.” and “liar liar pants on fire.” . Now if she could say it in Pig Latin and have all of her mean girl friends back her up with eye rolls and talk to the hand gestures, she’d have put a nail in this thread’s coffin! At first I thought ooof was an stubborn, spoiled, child, who was used to getting whatever she wants, but now I see that she is truly a linguistic genius of untold proportions.
BTW, not all females think like Ooof! ;) |
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