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Originally Posted by SonicCarhop
(Post 3218330)
this is not a quota!!!
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
(Post 3218319)
Again, I grant the fact that some things are different. But you've met women pilots, are they simply needles in a hay stack? Or were a lot of them people who had a family member who flew, or just were interested. Many of those I know had experiences like that. It doesn't fit with you insistence that different genes explain that huge discrepancy. Again, all the same goes for people of color. Where is that genetic difference, if you please.
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Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3217803)
Why does UAL863 on 28 June 1998 come to mind?
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Originally Posted by MudhammedCJ
(Post 3218340)
Too bad the facts are somewhat scrubbed from the internet.
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Originally Posted by SonicCarhop
(Post 3218057)
Do you believe that men are inherently better pilots than women? I'm guessing (and would agree) the answer is no.
So why are there 10 male pilots at United for every 1 female? Because the pool of candidates to work at a major airline currently only allows for that. The announcement by United isn't a quota to hire a certain number of female mainline pilots. It's a goal to have a certain percentage of female/minority candidates into their Aviate pipeline program by breaking down barriers to entry and partnering with non-traditional sources for recruiting. Down the line this will eventually expand and improve the hiring pool for pilots at major airlines, where pilots will continue to be hired based on skills and qualifications. |
Originally Posted by Bozo the pilot
(Post 3218353)
That's not what this does. It is a 50% quota. Reread the first post slowly, then get back to us genius.
What do you think this program is, if not what I said? |
No issues with promoting aviation to the minorities and women to get into the industry. Not by a long shot. In fact, I think that's a fantastic idea... Having said that, going woke with the arbitrary quotas, and trashing the white males is where they lose me.
I'm a Southwest guy, but I hope to God we don't start with this BS. By default, every time I set foot onboard our jet, I couldn't give two sh*ts about the sex or race of the pilots up front. My default assumption is that they're rockstars who had what it takes to get hired. At Southwest, up until a couple of years ago, every applicant had to have at least 1,000 hours of turbine PIC. That means everyone had to either get promoted to aircraft commander in the military, be a captain of a jet or a turboprop in the civilian world, get selected to interview, pass the interview, get through training and make it online. I've flown with minorities, women, older guys, younger gals, you name it... But one thing NOBODY could do would be question if they've actually earned their place. They all have, hands down, without a shadow of a doubt... their sex, race, ethnicity mattered/matters about as much as the color of their eyes. But in light of "we're instituting quotas to show how woke we are...", United literally took a giant dump on every single one of their pilots, men and women alike, any race or ethnicity, because now you've put a question mark on every single minority or a female applicant on whether or not they've truly earned their spot, or if they were hired to show some woke idiots' virtue signaling skills. Disgusting! |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3218363)
No issues with promoting aviation to the minorities and women to get into the industry. Not by a long shot. In fact, I think that's a fantastic idea... Having said that, going woke with the arbitrary quotas, and trashing the white males is where they lose me.
I'm a Southwest guy, but I hope to God we don't start with this BS. By default, every time I set foot onboard our jet, I couldn't give two sh*ts about the sex or race of the pilots up front. My default assumption is that they're rockstars who had what it takes to get hired. At Southwest, up until a couple of years ago, every applicant had to have at least 1,000 hours of turbine PIC. That means everyone had to either get promoted to aircraft commander in the military, be a captain of a jet or a turboprop in the civilian world, get selected to interview, pass the interview, get through training and make it online. I've flown with minorities, women, older guys, younger gals, you name it... But one thing NOBODY could do would be question if they've actually earned their place. They all have, hands down, without a shadow of a doubt... their sex, race, ethnicity mattered/matters about as much as the color of their eyes. But in light of "we're instituting quotas to show how woke we are...", United literally took a giant dump on every single one of their pilots, men and women alike, any race or ethnicity, because now you've put a question mark on every single minority or a female applicant on whether or not they've truly earned their spot, or if they were hired to show some woke idiots' virtue signaling skills. Disgusting! |
Originally Posted by SonicCarhop
(Post 3218365)
Out of curiosity, are you familiar with what the requirements are to go from entry into the Aviate program to being hired on by United?
I just happen to be. Out of curiosity, are you familiar with how it’s spun? Here you go... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unite...120807373.html |
Originally Posted by RJSAviator76
(Post 3218371)
I just happen to be. Out of curiosity, are you familiar with how it’s spun?
Here you go... https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unite...120807373.html |
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