Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3218306)

I don't understand what you're asking here.

Pilots are are extremely skewed toward men in a way most other professions aren't. It's that simple. It's a serious outlier and to have absolutely no introspection about that, well it's very disappointing.

Originally Posted by GA2Jets (Post 3218310)

What does it even mean to be qualified to enter flight school? You have to know how to do math? I mean come on. A will to work hard is practically all it takes! That and like 40 grand, or large amounts of loans which take decent credit. Being a pilot is flippin easy.

Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3218316)

Pilots are skewed towards men for researchable, easily verifiable, scientific reasons. Types of spatial intelligences, risk aversion, etc.

Women and men, generally speaking, have very differing types of intelligences. Decades upon decades of research has been done on this. There is nothing wrong with that. If you need me to start quoting and linking some peer reviewed journals, I'd be happy to - if you're interested.

Originally Posted by Merle Haggard (Post 3218315)

The US military has taken the lead in social issues in this country for many decades. Gender hasn't been a consideration in military pilot hiring for nearly 50 years (other than height for ejection seats and combat restrictions). With the gates wide open for decades, the military hasn't come anywhere near 10% female on the flight deck. For UA to achieve its goal, it will necessarily require a massive disparity in standards due to a sheer lack of volume and interest - it's just basic math, not a comment on any social issue.

I would also add this thought. Have fun negotiating a contract in 15 years if a third of the seniority list is beholden to UA for their only skill set, their employment, and has a $100,000 debt to the company. That should make for a very steely-eyed pilot group at the negotiating table (sarcasm intended).

Originally Posted by SonicCarhop (Post 3218321)

The goal is not for United to have 50% women and minority mainline pilots, its to have 25000 of the 5000 people at their entry level flight academy over the next 5 years be women and minorities.

Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218318)

Well, obviously United can’t just accept everyone into their exclusive flight school. So the recipients of the coveted slots should be based on race/gender in your mind, not academic performance, quality of character, etc.?

Originally Posted by SonicCarhop (Post 3218328)

So you're saying that there aren't enough women and minorities, which make up 70% of the population, with high enough academic performance or quality of character to deserve 50% of the spots in the academy?

Originally Posted by aal763 (Post 3218329)

then why need a quota?

Originally Posted by Andy Dufresne (Post 3218316)

Pilots are skewed towards men for researchable, easily verifiable, scientific reasons. Types of spatial intelligences, risk aversion, etc.

Women and men, generally speaking, have very differing types of intelligences. Decades upon decades of research has been done on this. There is nothing wrong with that. If you need me to start quoting and linking some peer reviewed journals, I'd be happy to - if you're interested.

Originally Posted by SonicCarhop (Post 3218331)

I'm interested...feel free to post or PM with links, I will read.