Originally Posted by Flydafe (Post 3218225)

What we have is a trade..does not require a college degree. The standards will not go down because of diversity. What makes you think that standards will go down due to Aviate kids learning to fly Cessnas or more women and diverse people flying in the cockpit of passenger jets? They all have completed the training and have an ATP plus years of existence by the time they reach the airline level.

China sends their youth to America to fly then gives them jobs. Mexico the same for the most part. Planes are not falling out of the sky.

Originally Posted by RJSAviator76 (Post 3218363)

No issues with promoting aviation to the minorities and women to get into the industry. Not by a long shot. In fact, I think that's a fantastic idea... Having said that, going woke with the arbitrary quotas, and trashing the white males is where they lose me.

I'm a Southwest guy, but I hope to God we don't start with this BS. By default, every time I set foot onboard our jet, I couldn't give two sh*ts about the sex or race of the pilots up front. My default assumption is that they're rockstars who had what it takes to get hired.

At Southwest, up until a couple of years ago, every applicant had to have at least 1,000 hours of turbine PIC. That means everyone had to either get promoted to aircraft commander in the military, be a captain of a jet or a turboprop in the civilian world, get selected to interview, pass the interview, get through training and make it online. I've flown with minorities, women, older guys, younger gals, you name it... But one thing NOBODY could do would be question if they've actually earned their place. They all have, hands down, without a shadow of a doubt... their sex, race, ethnicity mattered/matters about as much as the color of their eyes.

But in light of "we're instituting quotas to show how woke we are...", United literally took a giant dump on every single one of their pilots, men and women alike, any race or ethnicity, because now you've put a question mark on every single minority or a female applicant on whether or not they've truly earned their spot, or if they were hired to show some woke idiots' virtue signaling skills. Disgusting!

Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218259)

Regarding the financial barriers, do minorities/women not have access to loans, or are loans only available to white males? I also can recall the numerous scholarship opportunities at UND/ERAU available ONLY to women and/or POC. Some barrier I tell ya...

Originally Posted by StopBeingWhimps (Post 3217782)

What the Hiring 300 pilots headline we saw last week should really say is... United hiring 300 black women pilots. If you are white and a male, dont even bother applying. United wants to help racism with racism. Unbelievable! It's amazing how far we have come as a society. We used to hire based on experience and qualifications. I have a side business with 6 employees. I looked for the best people and best qualified. It just happens to be a mix of black and white and 1 latino. I never looked at the skin color, I hired the inner-person and their experience.

Originally Posted by SonicCarhop (Post 3218328)

So you're saying that there aren't enough women and minorities, which make up 70% of the population, with high enough academic performance or quality of character to deserve 50% of the spots in the academy?

Originally Posted by SonicCarhop (Post 3218375)

Yes - are you more bothered by how the program actually works, or the PR spin they are doing?

Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3218394)

Hmm. So only 30% of the population is male? You need to check your math. Try that some minorities are also women and some minorities are also male.
And no, there aren't enough women and minorities with the qualifications.that will even come close to the 50% that United is talking about.