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Mudge 04-07-2021 04:19 PM

Let's leave truth, reason, logic and statistics out of this. It's the 2020s.

ItnStln 04-07-2021 04:45 PM


Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218447)
Of course not.

I'll have to start one when I win the lottery.

ItnStln 04-07-2021 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Stan446 (Post 3218483)
FedEx. Didn't get to the courts I think. About 30yrs ago.

Thanks, I've never heard of that.

ItnStln 04-07-2021 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218512)
Tucker is tearing United apart tonight!

Yes, I saw. It's well deserved given their racist hiring practices.

Vito 04-07-2021 04:50 PM

I’m curious if minorities and women are embarrassed by this whole episode. While the woke crowd would lead you to believe they are righting past wrongs, the underlying reality of these programs is usually the racist/sexist attitude that minorities and women can’t compete on a level playing field, hence the need for these “feel good” schemes every few years. In their zeal to look woke, they are just revealing their racist/sexist attitudes.

Bestglide 04-07-2021 04:50 PM


Originally Posted by baseball (Post 3218514)
Didn't they bend the rules for a certain minority check airman a while back? I think that was her first leg of OE and that B757 300 never got used again. Made beer cans out of it, or is it still in EWR over in corrosion corner?

it was a 757-200. One of the newer ones and was written off. There’s a video somewhere showing it being torn apart and thrown away....very sad.

LabDad06 04-07-2021 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by KSwift76 (Post 3218507)
Why are you guys so upset that someone other than white male is getting a chance at a great career.

I had no idea that non white males were prohibited from pursuing aviation.


If I understand the overall frustration and objection to this... I don't think anyone would have a problem if airlines or the entire aviation industry set out to encourage and educate women and minorities to get into aviation and become pilots. I doubt anyone would have an issue if they gave grants and scholarships to women and minorities to back up that genuine interest in making it a more diverse industry. Where I believe the perceived problem is, is with public companies saying they will discriminate against hiring white males and instead hire females and minorities in their place, with a pre set quota, while realistically knowing they will hire less experienced pilots in the name of diversity. That's my take on many of the responses here, but I may be wrong. YMMV.

DALFA 04-07-2021 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by KSwift76 (Post 3218507)
I am a minority. I'm not angry. When I go to work it's 95% white males. I can count on my fingers and toes the number of minorities I've flown with in over 20 years and I'm sure you can too, if you are an airline pilot. I don't recall reading anywhere that the standards will be lowered for women and minorities. Why are you guys so upset that someone other than white male is getting a chance at a great career. Imagine going to work, every single day and being the only one that looks like you, shares cultural ideas, listens to similar music, likes similar movies, etc.... It has an effect when you have to adapt to the norms of your work environment for years and they are very different from yours. About the only thing I have in common with most of my coworkers outside of happy family, financial prosperity, etc... is flying. The only similarity I can think of would be the NFL or NBA, granted with a lot more money at stake.

The focus of a pilot is safety. Your feelings about being the only one that looks like you, shares cultural ideas, and listen to similar music are completely IRRELEVANT. This is the reason why quotas in regards to sex and race are inherently dangerous. The best candidate for the job should be hired regardless of their sex and race. That's the whole point.

If you have 10,000 white male applicants, 500 female applicants, and 500 black male applicants you're likely going to end up hiring similar percentages relative to the number of qualified applicants.

As others have said, females are more attracted to more "nurturing" careers. That's why a majority of teachers, nurses, and flight attendants are females. Nobody is out there creating quotas to have more straight male flight attendants is there?

This baloney all started with diversity programs and now we're going all out and creating quotas. This won't stop because now corporations all feel the need to one up each other. What happened to meritocracy? We're turning into Europe where a supermarket cashier earns the same as an electrician all in the name of fairness.


Preschool & kindergarten teachers = 97% women
Speech language pathologists = 96% women
Dieticians = 93% women
Hairstylists & Cosmetologists = 92% women

GolferNJ 04-07-2021 05:18 PM

Is there any way to move this thread to Parlor?

Bestglide 04-07-2021 05:21 PM


Originally Posted by GolferNJ (Post 3218551)
Is there any way to move this thread to Parlor?

it’s just fine rite here shedding the light on this b.s. woke horsecrap!


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