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XJ86 04-07-2021 07:02 PM

Good old racism in reverse... thats all affirmative action is and thats all this is. It's ok to hire based on skin color as long as your discriminating on white straight males.

Let's remember one of the more serious situations in which a 767 pounded the ground because an airline hired based on quotas not skills. The individual had numerous training failures but they didn't have the back bone to fire him for incompetence because they were afraid some race baiting scum would create a pr issue

Instead a plane pounded the ground.. thank God it was boxes and didn't hit a neighborhood

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.miamiherald.com/news/business/tourism-cruises/article238587338.html

Hire on quals not quotaa

Oh and Let's not forget the jumpseater had a class date with UAL..

XJ86 04-07-2021 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by TrumpLostLOL (Post 3218607)
Tucker is a troll! All he does is encourage uneducated racists. There are many benefits to having a diverse workforce, by implying hiring women and people of color equates to hiring less qualified people is complete BS. United can hire women and people of color while still hiring the best pilots out there. Everyone gets the same piece of plastic from the FAA, so competency is not sacrificed to hire minorities. If a company wants to reap the benefits of having a diverse workforce, guess what? That's capitalism, and it's their decision to make. If that bothers you, go find a job with a company that has values similar to yours (which are most likely crappy ones).

What it equates to is being racist. And your support of this shows your ok with being racist as long as its against white males

Desdi 04-07-2021 07:17 PM


Originally Posted by XJ86 (Post 3218608)
What it equates to is being racist. And your support of this shows your ok with being racist as long as its against white males

Nice for his second post eh? And to think he’s calling anyone a troll 🤣

AAL763 04-07-2021 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by TrumpLostLOL (Post 3218607)
Tucker is a troll! All he does is encourage uneducated racists. There are many benefits to having a diverse workforce, by implying hiring women and people of color equates to hiring less qualified people is complete BS. United can hire women and people of color while still hiring the best pilots out there. Everyone gets the same piece of plastic from the FAA, so competency is not sacrificed to hire minorities. If a company wants to reap the benefits of having a diverse workforce, guess what? That's capitalism, and it's their decision to make. If that bothers you, go find a job with a company that has values similar to yours (which are most likely crappy ones).

No serious person will ever take someone like you seriously. Ironic you’re carrying on about trolls with a screen name such as that and that absolutely amazing first post of yours... You obviously don’t know what the hell you’re talking about either. Comparing the piece of plastic to competency? Are you kidding? Go sniff some more glue.

Desdi 04-07-2021 07:19 PM


Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218612)
No serious person will ever take someone like you seriously. Ironic you’re carrying on about trolls with a screen name such as that and that absolutely amazing first post of yours... You obviously don’t know what the hell you’re talking about either. Comparing the piece of plastic to competency? Are you kidding? Go sniff some more glue.

Sounds like a certain drone pilot troll

XJ86 04-07-2021 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by Desdi (Post 3218611)
Nice for his second post eh? And to think he’s calling anyone a troll 🤣

Right.. wish there was a way to have us verify we are in fact pilots for carriers without disclosing our personal data. That guy or girl is a troll

Desdi 04-07-2021 07:26 PM


Originally Posted by AAL763 (Post 3218612)
No serious person will ever take someone like you seriously. Ironic you’re carrying on about trolls with a screen name such as that and that absolutely amazing first post of yours... You obviously don’t know what the hell you’re talking about either. Comparing the piece of plastic to competency? Are you kidding? Go sniff some more glue.

He’s obviously not an airline pilot, everyone knows that little piece of plastic means nothing other than the bare minimum. Every awesome pilot we have flown with has one, and every crap pilot has one too!

KSwift76 04-07-2021 07:34 PM


Originally Posted by ItnStln (Post 3218572)
I stopped responding to him because his posts are racist. Also I too quoted him and he ignored me. Apparently he's here just to stir **** up.

Not at all. Here to tell the other side of the coin. I rarely post, but read a lot. If you search my post history, you will find several posts on other threads basically stating the same things I'm saying here. Giving other people an opportunity is not racist. Advocating for everyone to have a chance is not racist. Not once did I say white males should not have an opportunity or be excluded. In fact, 50% of the applicants will he white males. Also I did not say people should be accepted or hired if they are unqualified. My family rides on the back of our jets. I sure want a good, competent knowledgeable FO to help and give input based on their experience when things go wrong. I just believe that other people can also do this job and perhaps lack of opportunity or exposure or financing or maybe reading this thread makes them not want too. I don't proclaim to know what my colleagues are thinking at work. I know what has been said to me directly and indirectly. I know what I've heard when they know I'm on the room and when they don't know I'm in the room. I do not know everyone's intent. I do know what I hear from a large number of my fellow pilots.

It has to change. Thankfully UAL is taking positive steps to invest in people that have the ability to get qualified to operate our jets. White, Black, Brown, Gay, Straight, etc.... If you're qualified, you get a chance. I just don't want the same people who have traditionally held the keys to the gates with attitudes like several on here making those decisions. Again 50% minorities and women 50% (I assume white males) into the Academy with a chance to get into the pipeline. Hardly excluding anyone.

DALFA 04-07-2021 07:42 PM


Originally Posted by KSwift76 (Post 3218623)
Not at all. Here to tell the other side of the coin. I rarely post, but read a lot. If you search my post history, you will find several posts on other threads basically stating the same things I'm saying here. Giving other people an opportunity is not racist. Advocating for everyone to have a chance is not racist. Not once did I say white males should not have an opportunity or be excluded. In fact, 50% of the applicants will he white males. Also I did not say people should be accepted or hired if they are unqualified. My family rides on the back of our jets. I sure want a good, competent knowledgeable FO to help and give input based on their experience when things go wrong. I just believe that other people can also do this job and perhaps lack of opportunity or exposure or financing or maybe reading this thread makes them not want too. I don't proclaim to know what my colleagues are thinking at work. I know what has been said to me directly and indirectly. I know what I've heard when they know I'm on the room and when they don't know I'm in the room. I do not know everyone's intent. I do know what I hear from a large number of my fellow pilots.

It has to change. Thankfully UAL is taking positive steps to invest in people that have the ability to get qualified to operate our jets. White, Black, Brown, Gay, Straight, etc.... If you're qualified, you get a chance. I just don't want the same people who have traditionally held the keys to the gates with attitudes like several on here making those decisions. Again 50% minorities and women 50% (I assume white males) into the Academy with a chance to get into the pipeline. Hardly excluding anyone.

If 80% of the applicants are white males then why should only 50% of those hired be white males? Wouldn't it just make sense to forget about peoples race and sex all together and just judge an application based on merits?

Does being a female make you a better or safer pilot?

Does being a minority make you a better or safer pilot?

This entire notion that diversity is better and that we're gonna impose quotas to have more diversity is absolutely insane.

JurgenKlopp 04-07-2021 07:50 PM

I’m still in a corner sobbing that we lost Tucker. I mean if such a clear voice that benefits from every Swanson chicken pot pie sold says no more to United, how can we ever recover!?!

Please tell me Hannity didn’t mention United in his opening monologue!?!


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