The program and the underlying goals behind it are pretty easy to read and interpret.

instead of having a goal set of "hire the best, brightest, and most talented" we have a goal to hire the most diverse work force of pilots on the planet.

The overall goal is the problem. I can't tell you how many special video presentations, etc., I have seen touting the number of female pilots we have. Special videos on percentages, etc. I've seen so many "all female crew" videos it's making me sick. These girls that are in these videos must be embarrassed at what the airline is doing. The female pilots I know and respect just want to come to work and do their job and go home with no fanfare, etc. It's just another day at the office for them.

The initiative in question is "flawed." It should NOT be about "finding minority candidates." It should be about simply HIRING the best QUALIFIED candidates. The "goal" is flawed and so is the logic behind it.

The public pandering that the Big U is doing in this area is a bit embarrassing. Moreover, it degrades, minimizes and marginalizes the profession. Further, it may result in lower qualifications and have downward pressure on pilot pay rates. Lastly, we haven't seen the outcome yet: but it may definitely increase check airman workload and degrade safety.

I think there are a lot of good arguments in this thread, and once again (like most things now) if you scrub away the emotion and name calling - most people are reasonable and agree on the big picture of never sacrificing quality on an airliner flight deck.

Speaking exclusively about the Aviate 0 —> Hero academy, how do we determine who is the most qualified for flight training? This is not rhetorical. In my opinion I see very little specific value that the academy offers verses any other Aviate pathway. I’m not saying it is not a great flight school, and I’m not saying Aviate doesn’t provide value - I just want to understand what makes this path better compared to mom and pop flight school then joining Aviate or a university program (like Purdue) and then joining Aviate.

I speak with young people all the time about aviation.

Word of this program has already spread to many high school age kids.

Of the two I have spoken to recently (both white males), they plan to attend college that has a flight school. They perceive since they are white males that the aviate program isn't for them. In that way, they keep their options open to other airlines down the road.

I notice you are a boilermaker. Purdue has a great reputation. As in the best. Many can't afford that, so they will be looking for quality schools within about a 5 to 6 hour drive from home that have respectable aviation programs.

As far as who gets into the program...well, I think that's pretty obvious.

You make two very good points.
1. The line pilots aren't driving these changes
2. The line pilots (Captains) will be burdened by these changes

I brief my FO's to the fly jet as if they were the Captain. if I have a question as to what you are doing or why, I will ask. I don't consider myself a flight instructor. I do believe i am a mentor, and in that sense I display behavior that is worth modeling. Captains primary jobs are in leadership, communication to the team, task prioritization, and risk management. If we get bogged down in flight instruction that will take away from the big 4.

You're also supposed to know where the best happy hours are.

The real test is where the best fishing is!

Probably not, considering they seem pretty proud of this sorta garbage....
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FOoPPtGAlbs

Keyword, GARBAGE.

Guess I'm the oddball. I thought it was pretty cool.

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