No Degree Aviate
#31
is it logical or “fair”? No. Is it a measure of an individual’s merit? Certainly not. But it’s the way things are. Play the game, win good prizes. Or sit in the audience and know that Rod Roddy probably won’t call your name....
#32
To be honest I don’t know if that has been added or not. I’m sure that if LCAL had a similar tradition it would be included into the existing one.
Remember, the new folks don’t care about legacy X.
There just United new hires.
Remember, the new folks don’t care about legacy X.
There just United new hires.
#33
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Joined APC: Sep 2012
Posts: 495
Exactly..so get rid of all legacy symbols and affix the current logo on the ball because that is the legacy new hires care about.
#34
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Joined APC: Aug 2018
Posts: 61
I think the better metaphor is without a degree you're waiting for Rod to call you to come on down, but you never took the history class that covered that Mr. Roddy passed several years ago...
#35
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Position: KC-135/B747 Pilot
Posts: 117
being a good pilot is important, but anyone who's been through any aviation interview can tell you they don't focus on how great of a pilot you are, or how superb your hand to eye coordination is. Having a degree is more of a personality discriminator.
I used to hear this all the time when I was new in the military. In boot camp, new enlisted guys/gals were told over and over "the only difference between you and a butter bar is a college degree". While factually, thats partially correct, setting a goal, applying, saving up, committing to a degree, getting good grades, and finishing said degree shows maturity and dedication. Of course there are always outliers
#36
I was fortunate enough to carry the ball for a week. I don't recall any UA logo on it. Just the 8.
#37
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Posts: 103
#38
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Joined APC: Feb 2020
Posts: 10
The only things needed to fly part 121 are an ATP and a medical. Everything else is used to filter the thousands of applicants. People who say you don't need a degree to do the job are absolutely correct. But you need the degree to be competitive enough to get the job.
#39
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 309
The college degree preference (just shy of being a requirement), while understandable when it’s a seller’s market, is a bit absurd when they’re desperate enough to fund a training pipeline for zero-hour candidates.
I’ve got a good buddy from the RJ days who has spent the last decade flying heavies internationally for Cathay, but his application is basically DOA at all the majors because he went from high school directly to flight school.
Apparently his knowledge, skills, and experience account for next to nothing while a fresh-faced AVIATE enrollee will get fast tracked to a multi-million dollar career…
This industry is crazy.
I’ve got a good buddy from the RJ days who has spent the last decade flying heavies internationally for Cathay, but his application is basically DOA at all the majors because he went from high school directly to flight school.
Apparently his knowledge, skills, and experience account for next to nothing while a fresh-faced AVIATE enrollee will get fast tracked to a multi-million dollar career…
This industry is crazy.
#40
C'mon! There were and are exceptional exceptions.
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