Oh no “wht” that’s wrong. I know this one. It’s “yt” male. We’ll all get the training on that soon enough.

 

Is that gonna before or after the part where I tell The Port Authority official NO WAY while winking...

 

So like, you’re a troll but a baby one who’s not very good at it. You’re coming in loud and clear now.

 

You guys are all a petri dish for the Dunning Kruger Effect.

Thank God this is all in a private forum. I'm glad no outsiders would ever be able to see how determined the biggest beneficiaries of pandemic relief funds are to denounce the vaccine that is keeping their industry alive.

 

They blaspheme the sacred vaccine which has delivered them in time of peril. /s

 

Im surprised this took 9 pages to totally derail this topic. Civility and respect are DEAD in our society. I dont give a flying F&@K what side of this argument your on but until we bring back the ability to be adults again and act as such we are ALL screwed.

 

We all know the commercial on TV in a few years (I give it 5) that going to be played over and over. Lawyers saying to contact them if you or a loved one suffered harm or death as a result of the EXPERIMENTAL covid19 vaccines. I don't want to be a guinea pig. I never get the flu shot either, but my immune system does what I need. ”my body, my choice”... is that only when it fits a political agenda?

Furthermore, if the vaccine you took actually works, then why do i need to be forced to take it to protect you?

 

Anyone in your life that you care about on chemotherapy?

 

yes and cardiac. They opted to get the vaccine. If the vaccine works, then they should be protected, right? Personal choice. If it works then it doesn’t matter if I get it because they got it. If it doesn’t work then it doesn’t do any good for either of us to get it. Does it work or does it not work? Fauci seems to be confused about that question too.

I’m just gonna do what’s worked for me for so long to avoid any virus.... wash my hands regularly, don’t pick my nose or chew my fingernails, avoid touching my face at work, etc and not live in fear.

Everything we do in life is a calculated risk. We drive down the highway at 70mph, we fly airplanes, we scuba dive, we climb on ladders, we go to Chicago, etc. I really don’t think covid is our biggest threat honestly.

I’m not againd the vaccine at all. I’m against mandate of an experimental drug

 

Vaccination is not a guarantee of immunity. No one of any scientific legitimacy (including the ignominious Dr. Fauci) is claiming that it is. The whole “either it works universally or not at all” fallacy displays a fundamental misunderstanding of the situation.

The shots currently being used in the US report efficacy between 70%-90%- which is good- but it is still very possible to be vaccinated & not develop immunity. (Remember TEM & the “Swiss cheese” model? Me being vaccinated makes transmission between us unlikely- not impossible. Both of us being vaccinated gives both of us exponentially greater protection.)

But here’s the part you should really understand so you can make an informed decision: THOSE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON A NORMALLY FUNCTIONING IMMUNE SYSTEM. Chemo can weaken the immune system, meaning someone on chemo (or with any form of immuno deficiency) is less likely to achieve immunity through immunization than you or me. How much less likely? Unfortunately that’s a complex question & we still don’t have good data on that.

So yes, life is full of calculated risks. But if you are treating an immuno-compromised loved one as though they are bullet proof just because they’ve had the shot, please consider reevaluating that calculus. You can transmit the virus to them, they can be infected, and their bodies may not be able to resist that infection. If you refuse to be vaccinated, you should at least be very mindful about your interactions with this person if you care about them.