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Old 06-14-2021 | 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
800,000 people die from cardiovascular disease EVERY YEAR. Why don't we shut down the world for that? This nonsense is a one off. I will bet you that in 5 years this will be talked about the same way MERS or SARS was except that the shutdown was responsible for uncountable deaths.

And mRNA vaccines have never been successful, until (allegedly) this one. But the point is the testing is done on the fly, and outside of normal protocol. And the approval process will be as well.

As to the conspiracy, you do you and I'll do me. I won't force you to not get it and you can extend the same courtesy. That's all I ask. But I find it interesting that you try to turn this into a conspiracy denigration of those that don't buy your theory. Fauci has flat our LIED. There are tons of emails that attest to that. Believe him if you want. I will do due diligence. Frankly, I think he is an attention ***** that forgot he was a doctor a long time ago.
do…do you think the world’s public health officials don’t do anything to fight cardiovascular disease?
Old 06-14-2021 | 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumpyaviator
it’s called a herald.com. A site that reports aircraft accidents and incidents. You should see the comments there.
I believe you mean avherald.com, yes? If no, mea culpa.
Old 06-14-2021 | 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by JamesBond
You have unequivocal proof that it does this? From ALL permutations and possibilities of conditions?
Do you have unequivocal proof that it doesn't? If not, lets move past the logic fallacies.

With over 2.4 billion doses given worldwide, the risk of hospitalization and death, for a vaccinated person, from COVID has been virtually zero. If you are vaccinated, it doesn't matter if you get COVID as the chance of series consequences are essentially zero.

2.4 billion vaccination doses given vs. 176 million confirmed COVID cases. Which group has had more series health effects or death?

2,390,000,000 vs 175,960,000

It shouldn't be difficult to determine which path offers the least risk.
Old 06-14-2021 | 06:17 PM
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If (anecdotally) you and all your family survive COVID with no long term effects, but 1 in 100 have permanent lung scaring (meaning you’d rarely meet someone personally who was in this situation) your experience would very much track with what scientists are saying, and yet, there would still be a significant threat from COVID to alter a person’s life. Just because you haven’t seen it personally doesn’t mean it’s not happening. That is a beautiful part of our modern day technology. Reviewing big Data is one way aviation has become so safe. It’s hard to take individual occurrences and assign accurate risk, but aggregate years of data from many airlines and it starts to paint a picture. As do global stats about the virus and the vaccine for that matter
Old 06-14-2021 | 08:04 PM
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I think hummingbear is going to singlehandedly change EVERYBODY’S minds, simply by quantity of posts on this issue.
Old 06-15-2021 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by ReadOnly7
I think hummingbear is going to singlehandedly change EVERYBODY’S minds, simply by quantity of posts on this issue.

He or she is running circles around these clowns and I'm not sure they even realize.
Old 06-15-2021 | 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas
He or she is running circles around these clowns and I'm not sure they even realize.
ignorance is bliss…..
Old 06-15-2021 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas
He or she is running circles around these clowns and I'm not sure they even realize.
Yeah, but it’s not going to convince anyone of anything. Regardless of how many times you you expose reality, there are some people that will think aliens come out of a syringe and change their DNA.
Old 06-15-2021 | 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DoubtingThomas
He or she is running circles around these clowns and I'm not sure they even realize.
That really wasn’t my point. It’s an exercise in futility.
Old 06-15-2021 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Starlifter;[url=tel:3250173
3250173[/url]]I believe you mean avherald.com, yes? If no, mea culpa.
yeah, sorry, autocorrect.
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