UAL Vaccination
07-06-2021 | 11:17 AM
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You have no idea where those statistics are coming from! Or the break down. I bet 100% (pontificating just like you) old people above 78 are the ones dying. Yup old people die! When you guys can show me that 600,000 +/= have died on top of our normal death rate here in America ill believe in your pandemic. You can't because the number is missing! 3 million is the average, so show me the 3.6 million that died last year...
Even my doctor can't find that data...he also believes this is bs! He told me if not for the news they wouldn't have known a pandemic was going on...it was a normal year in his office for the flu. Non of his patients were hospitalized but he did say 4 of his elderly patients died within 4 days of taking the second shot in one week...never happened b4 in all his years. Can he prove it was the shot? No!
Even my doctor can't find that data...he also believes this is bs! He told me if not for the news they wouldn't have known a pandemic was going on...it was a normal year in his office for the flu. Non of his patients were hospitalized but he did say 4 of his elderly patients died within 4 days of taking the second shot in one week...never happened b4 in all his years. Can he prove it was the shot? No!
here’s some info about excess death. If you google “excess deaths in usa 2020,” you’ll find all kinds of info from various data sets. Too bad your doctor doesn’t know how to use a search engine
07-06-2021 | 03:10 PM
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https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/e...aw-death-count
here’s some info about excess death. If you google “excess deaths in usa 2020,” you’ll find all kinds of info from various data sets. Too bad your doctor doesn’t know how to use a search engine
here’s some info about excess death. If you google “excess deaths in usa 2020,” you’ll find all kinds of info from various data sets. Too bad your doctor doesn’t know how to use a search engine
While admittedly, there aren’t any official reports, the evidence shows there are probably a significant number of double counted deaths here in the U.S.
The U.K. actually has admitted officially they’ve double counted deaths. Here in the U.S. numerous states either have corrected or have said they will correct for deaths counted as Covid even though the true cause is something else. For most of last year, most states would count it as a covid death as long as the person tested positive or at least showed symptoms, even if the person was in a car accident. The states that have corrected their numbers have decreased their death numbers by 25%. And this is just for the obvious cases like suicide, drug overdoses, and homocides. This doesn’t include deaths that could be heart disease, flu, pneumonia, etc.
These states have only corrected SOME of the obvious cases, and their covid numbers went down. Yet, if you look at the national numbers… they continued to rise. Never did the national covid death numbers ever go down even as states corrected their numbers. Like I said, there aren’t any “official” reports of double numbers, but I’d be willing to bet if you take the numbers state by state it will add up to significantly less than what the national covid death number is. And these are not conspiracy rumors… if you need the links ill be happy to look them back up in a little bit. These are the actual state and public health officials admitting this is how they are or at least were counting Covid deaths. Not Alex Jones or Qanon. It’s straight from the horse’s mouth.
Also, the yearly average of total death is close to 3 million. A lot of these deaths don’t even occur in hospitals. They’re in nursing homes, accidents, and people dying of old age in their own. Most covid deaths are occurring at hospitals. The media says we should be scared because ICUs are at 96%, but then you learn ICUs are usually over 90% capacity anyway. Hospitals are a business. They’re not going to build a hospital to only be at 50% capacity. If the normal death average is close to 3 million anyway (and a lot of these don’t occur in hospitals and covid deaths that mostly occur in hospitals are at 600k then common sense tells us ICU usage should easily be 25-50% higher than normal. Not 2-3.
Also, the CDC has admitted they suggested closing schools because of pressure from teacher unions. That combined with the fact that they also suggested shutting the entire country down for almost a year… the CDC would basically lose any and all credibility if it was shown the true numbers are nowhere near what’s being reported. It’s very naive to think that the CDC is telling the whole truth.
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07-06-2021 | 03:30 PM
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I tested positive three times before I got a negative test and have friends in the same boat. I’m sure each positive was considered a separate case.
07-06-2021 | 07:24 PM
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6 months ago we were averaging over 3,000 COVID deaths per day. Now it’s below 200. Which begs the question- how did we so quickly run out of heart attacks & car crashes to blame COVID for? If the vaccine isn’t inoculating us against a deadly virus, it’s at least exciting to think that science may have finally discovered a cure for motorcycle accidents.
07-06-2021 | 08:19 PM
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How many of those deaths have been double counted for both Covid and their true cause? Those are also preliminary numbers. Most officials say it might be another year or two before they can submit the official numbers.
While admittedly, there aren’t any official reports, the evidence shows there are probably a significant number of double counted deaths here in the U.S.
The U.K. actually has admitted officially they’ve double counted deaths. Here in the U.S. numerous states either have corrected or have said they will correct for deaths counted as Covid even though the true cause is something else. For most of last year, most states would count it as a covid death as long as the person tested positive or at least showed symptoms, even if the person was in a car accident. The states that have corrected their numbers have decreased their death numbers by 25%. And this is just for the obvious cases like suicide, drug overdoses, and homocides. This doesn’t include deaths that could be heart disease, flu, pneumonia, etc.
These states have only corrected SOME of the obvious cases, and their covid numbers went down. Yet, if you look at the national numbers… they continued to rise. Never did the national covid death numbers ever go down even as states corrected their numbers. Like I said, there aren’t any “official” reports of double numbers, but I’d be willing to bet if you take the numbers state by state it will add up to significantly less than what the national covid death number is. And these are not conspiracy rumors… if you need the links ill be happy to look them back up in a little bit. These are the actual state and public health officials admitting this is how they are or at least were counting Covid deaths. Not Alex Jones or Qanon. It’s straight from the horse’s mouth.
Also, the yearly average of total death is close to 3 million. A lot of these deaths don’t even occur in hospitals. They’re in nursing homes, accidents, and people dying of old age in their own. Most covid deaths are occurring at hospitals. The media says we should be scared because ICUs are at 96%, but then you learn ICUs are usually over 90% capacity anyway. Hospitals are a business. They’re not going to build a hospital to only be at 50% capacity. If the normal death average is close to 3 million anyway (and a lot of these don’t occur in hospitals and covid deaths that mostly occur in hospitals are at 600k then common sense tells us ICU usage should easily be 25-50% higher than normal. Not 2-3.
Also, the CDC has admitted they suggested closing schools because of pressure from teacher unions. That combined with the fact that they also suggested shutting the entire country down for almost a year… the CDC would basically lose any and all credibility if it was shown the true numbers are nowhere near what’s being reported. It’s very naive to think that the CDC is telling the whole truth.
While admittedly, there aren’t any official reports, the evidence shows there are probably a significant number of double counted deaths here in the U.S.
The U.K. actually has admitted officially they’ve double counted deaths. Here in the U.S. numerous states either have corrected or have said they will correct for deaths counted as Covid even though the true cause is something else. For most of last year, most states would count it as a covid death as long as the person tested positive or at least showed symptoms, even if the person was in a car accident. The states that have corrected their numbers have decreased their death numbers by 25%. And this is just for the obvious cases like suicide, drug overdoses, and homocides. This doesn’t include deaths that could be heart disease, flu, pneumonia, etc.
These states have only corrected SOME of the obvious cases, and their covid numbers went down. Yet, if you look at the national numbers… they continued to rise. Never did the national covid death numbers ever go down even as states corrected their numbers. Like I said, there aren’t any “official” reports of double numbers, but I’d be willing to bet if you take the numbers state by state it will add up to significantly less than what the national covid death number is. And these are not conspiracy rumors… if you need the links ill be happy to look them back up in a little bit. These are the actual state and public health officials admitting this is how they are or at least were counting Covid deaths. Not Alex Jones or Qanon. It’s straight from the horse’s mouth.
Also, the yearly average of total death is close to 3 million. A lot of these deaths don’t even occur in hospitals. They’re in nursing homes, accidents, and people dying of old age in their own. Most covid deaths are occurring at hospitals. The media says we should be scared because ICUs are at 96%, but then you learn ICUs are usually over 90% capacity anyway. Hospitals are a business. They’re not going to build a hospital to only be at 50% capacity. If the normal death average is close to 3 million anyway (and a lot of these don’t occur in hospitals and covid deaths that mostly occur in hospitals are at 600k then common sense tells us ICU usage should easily be 25-50% higher than normal. Not 2-3.
Also, the CDC has admitted they suggested closing schools because of pressure from teacher unions. That combined with the fact that they also suggested shutting the entire country down for almost a year… the CDC would basically lose any and all credibility if it was shown the true numbers are nowhere near what’s being reported. It’s very naive to think that the CDC is telling the whole truth.
07-06-2021 | 10:41 PM
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How many of those deaths have been double counted for both Covid and their true cause? Those are also preliminary numbers. Most officials say it might be another year or two before they can submit the official numbers.
While admittedly, there aren’t any official reports, the evidence shows there are probably a significant number of double counted deaths here in the U.S.
The U.K. actually has admitted officially they’ve double counted deaths. Here in the U.S. numerous states either have corrected or have said they will correct for deaths counted as Covid even though the true cause is something else. For most of last year, most states would count it as a covid death as long as the person tested positive or at least showed symptoms, even if the person was in a car accident. The states that have corrected their numbers have decreased their death numbers by 25%. And this is just for the obvious cases like suicide, drug overdoses, and homocides. This doesn’t include deaths that could be heart disease, flu, pneumonia, etc.
These states have only corrected SOME of the obvious cases, and their covid numbers went down. Yet, if you look at the national numbers… they continued to rise. Never did the national covid death numbers ever go down even as states corrected their numbers. Like I said, there aren’t any “official” reports of double numbers, but I’d be willing to bet if you take the numbers state by state it will add up to significantly less than what the national covid death number is. And these are not conspiracy rumors… if you need the links ill be happy to look them back up in a little bit. These are the actual state and public health officials admitting this is how they are or at least were counting Covid deaths. Not Alex Jones or Qanon. It’s straight from the horse’s mouth.
Also, the yearly average of total death is close to 3 million. A lot of these deaths don’t even occur in hospitals. They’re in nursing homes, accidents, and people dying of old age in their own. Most covid deaths are occurring at hospitals. The media says we should be scared because ICUs are at 96%, but then you learn ICUs are usually over 90% capacity anyway. Hospitals are a business. They’re not going to build a hospital to only be at 50% capacity. If the normal death average is close to 3 million anyway (and a lot of these don’t occur in hospitals and covid deaths that mostly occur in hospitals are at 600k then common sense tells us ICU usage should easily be 25-50% higher than normal. Not 2-3.
Also, the CDC has admitted they suggested closing schools because of pressure from teacher unions. That combined with the fact that they also suggested shutting the entire country down for almost a year… the CDC would basically lose any and all credibility if it was shown the true numbers are nowhere near what’s being reported. It’s very naive to think that the CDC is telling the whole truth.
While admittedly, there aren’t any official reports, the evidence shows there are probably a significant number of double counted deaths here in the U.S.
The U.K. actually has admitted officially they’ve double counted deaths. Here in the U.S. numerous states either have corrected or have said they will correct for deaths counted as Covid even though the true cause is something else. For most of last year, most states would count it as a covid death as long as the person tested positive or at least showed symptoms, even if the person was in a car accident. The states that have corrected their numbers have decreased their death numbers by 25%. And this is just for the obvious cases like suicide, drug overdoses, and homocides. This doesn’t include deaths that could be heart disease, flu, pneumonia, etc.
These states have only corrected SOME of the obvious cases, and their covid numbers went down. Yet, if you look at the national numbers… they continued to rise. Never did the national covid death numbers ever go down even as states corrected their numbers. Like I said, there aren’t any “official” reports of double numbers, but I’d be willing to bet if you take the numbers state by state it will add up to significantly less than what the national covid death number is. And these are not conspiracy rumors… if you need the links ill be happy to look them back up in a little bit. These are the actual state and public health officials admitting this is how they are or at least were counting Covid deaths. Not Alex Jones or Qanon. It’s straight from the horse’s mouth.
Also, the yearly average of total death is close to 3 million. A lot of these deaths don’t even occur in hospitals. They’re in nursing homes, accidents, and people dying of old age in their own. Most covid deaths are occurring at hospitals. The media says we should be scared because ICUs are at 96%, but then you learn ICUs are usually over 90% capacity anyway. Hospitals are a business. They’re not going to build a hospital to only be at 50% capacity. If the normal death average is close to 3 million anyway (and a lot of these don’t occur in hospitals and covid deaths that mostly occur in hospitals are at 600k then common sense tells us ICU usage should easily be 25-50% higher than normal. Not 2-3.
Also, the CDC has admitted they suggested closing schools because of pressure from teacher unions. That combined with the fact that they also suggested shutting the entire country down for almost a year… the CDC would basically lose any and all credibility if it was shown the true numbers are nowhere near what’s being reported. It’s very naive to think that the CDC is telling the whole truth.
it is “excess death”. It doesn’t matter what they died from. Just to total number of dead people and I am sure they didn’t double count them.
so more people died in 2020 than other years - so it is a very reasonable assumption that there is a causality between higher than normal deaths and Covid - regardless of what each and every individual death is attributed to
07-06-2021 | 11:06 PM
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After the president’s rant on a door-to-door vaccination/information campaign, I’m now against the jab 100%. How bizarre can this get? It’s available around the corner at CVS if I choose to get it. Geez.
07-06-2021 | 11:38 PM
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if several states covid death numbers one day go down 25%. And the total National number continues to rise at the same rate… How else do you explain that? The only way for that to happen is if the states that didn’t correct their data had a spike of an extra 25% in covid deaths at the same time the other states decrease. I mean, maybe I should start buying some scratch offs if you believe that seems perfectly normal?
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07-06-2021 | 11:53 PM
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it is “excess death”. It doesn’t matter what they died from. Just to total number of dead people and I am sure they didn’t double count them.
so more people died in 2020 than other years - so it is a very reasonable assumption that there is a causality between higher than normal deaths and Covid - regardless of what each and every individual death is attributed to
so more people died in 2020 than other years - so it is a very reasonable assumption that there is a causality between higher than normal deaths and Covid - regardless of what each and every individual death is attributed to
If the U.K. has officially admitted they’ve double counted deaths because of this same reason… what makes you think the CDC is immune to such discrepancies. Especially when they have a vested interested in keeping the numbers high?
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