excess deaths don’t consider the cause of death, so moving a death from one column to another doesn’t affect the number of death certificates issued.

 

I’m not certain of the lag time and data processes involved in excess death counts, but since excess death isn’t an issue of causality, I’m not sure it would be affected.

the OP asked for data about where all the deaths were. The answer is: right there in the excess death data. But if you have another suggestion on what suddenly caused a huge increase in total deaths in the US in 2020 and early 2021, I’m all ears

 

I get what you’re saying. But when another developed country has made the same mistake and the CDC can’t even do a simple update by subtracting a covid death when they correct it to a drug overdose, then I get a little skeptical. These numbers also basically dictated how we’ve been running the country for a year and a half,

If you have a good explanation on why I should believe an organization that can’t even update one of the most simplest and easily one of the most important data points, is telling the truth about everything else… I’m all ears.

 

Maybe you can clarify how many COVID deaths you believe have been miscounted. I think most people accept that there will be clerical errors & discrepancies with how cause of death is assessed; and that the daily numbers we see on Google are generally not as accurate as surveys a year from now might be. But understand today’s numbers could be off by nearly 20% and STILL represent 500K COVID deaths- making it the 3rd most common cause of death in the US last year.

I wouldn’t think to claim the CDC is free from political & financial pressures, or that it’s otherwise beyond reproach, but it would take a MASSIVE coordinated malfeasance of reporting (like over 90%) to make COVID less than a top ten killer in 2020. I can’t tell if you understand this & are being intentionally vague, or if you’re all in on the conspiracy theory. Care to ballpark how many reported COVID deaths you believe to be legitimate?

 

Man you can’t argue with an anti vax conspiracy theorists! You know that. Who cares precisely how many died and continue to die from COVID. It’s a big number no matter how you count them. Any healthy person that refuses this shot is off their proverbial rocker. Enough said.

 

States and cities that have corrected only for OBVIOUS cases like overdose, murders, and suicides have reduced their numbers by 25%. If they’ve gone down that much for deaths that generally make up a small percentage of total deaths then your guess is as good as mine for all the other causes as well. If they go down 25% for just those causes you’re actually a conspiracy theorist if you think the “official” total CDC numbers are anywhere close to accurate.

 

The director of the CDC has said school aged children are 10 times more likely to die of influenza compared to Covid. Are parents that don’t force their kids to get a flu shot every year off their rocker? Are you one of those parents that are ok with their kids going to school during flu season which is 10 times more deadly for children, but then are scared to let them go to school because of covid?

 

Yeah, jtbost is a *******lib**** but he won’t talk anymore , probably, he’s “said enough “ apparently

 

The reason is if you are under the age of 18, you have a 99.997% chance of survival with NO TREATMENT. And if you’re between the ages of 18 and 45, you have a 99.95% of survival with NO TREATMENT (all CDC data). Currently there are numerous COVID treatment protocols that will basically reduce that infinitesimal risk to near zero. So I ask you, why would a healthy person take an experimental mRNA vaccine for a virus that presents almost no risk to them?? It comes down to personal choice.