Because getting sick sucks ass, and statistically the virus is a substantially bigger risk for complications post-infection than the three EUA vaccines post-administration.

I’m in my late 30s and didn’t hesitate to get jabbed for those two reasons. Others’ risk evaluation/acceptance may vary…and that’s okay.

 

I’m loving the dialogue from both sides. This topic is interesting. My issue with the whole situation is the blatant censorship that is occurring on social media about the vaccines. There was a FB group that was reporting their negative side effects. It was taken down. I get that social media companies are privately owned and can do what they want but censorship is butting up against free speech. A slippery slope going forward.

YouTube removed 800,000 videos. That’s a lot pro or con on the subject

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wire...media-76410199

 

What about all those folks that don’t fall into those categories that you are jeopardizing?

 

I voted for Trump..... who did a damn good job getting these vaccines developed. I guess he made an incorrect assumption that his hard core fans were smart enough to take it.

 

What's with quoting official data sources and reputable news organizations? Don't you guys know by now that if it's popular, reputable, or official, it's hopelessly political and corrupt? Even comments are astroturfed. The only good info you have on covid and these vaccines is what you get from people you know personally in unrelated contexts. Sad but true.

 

Folks that I am jeopardizing??? How so??? That makes absolutely no sense. If YOU are “vaccinated”, then MY vaccination status is of no concern to you, as I present no threat to you. The opposite is also true. If I’m not vaccinated, then I have no interest in your vaccination status, as I’ve assessed the risks of COVID vs Vaccination and made MY decision to not take the “jab”.

 

So you don't understand herd immunity, R value, or the vaccine approval process? Or are you being intentionally obtuse?

A paramedic disagreeing with a legion of experts in their field at the cdc, three separate global medical companies who developed vaccines with thousands of doctors, the doctors at the WHO, and the independent companies that compile the test data from those vaccines because of ??? Multiple, independent conspiracies? You want to be skeptical sure but at some point you aren't looking for a conversation you are promoting your own brand of crazy.

 

You can call me “crazy” if you want, but you didn’t answer the question I proposed. My limited knowledge of herd immunity is that it is best achieved naturally, although a vaccine can provide a “forced” herd immunity, so to speak. The mRNA vaccines are NOT approved. They have EUA status only, which by definition means there are no other treatments available that are equal or better than the vaccine. That as you know is a complete fabrication, as there are many treatment protocols available now (hydroxychloroquin, Ivermectin, etc) that are much better than the vaccine and have no risks. However, that information is being squashed, as you never hear anything about that on MSM. Hell, the Lancet medical journal was caught in a lie, publishing a known fabricated article on hydroxychloroquin, stating that the drug was “dangerous”, which is absolute lunacy. But I digress, this mRNA vaccine is being forced on people without proper safety precautions or long term data. Ethically, in order for people to be involved in a controlled trial of a vaccine, it must be voluntary with full disclosure given and informed consent received. I see none of that going on. The amount of coercion that I see involving this vaccine is deplorable. The real question is: WHY??

BTW, its not a “paramedic” thats disagreeing with you. There are many MDs, PhDs, and other medical experts that have brought this information to light. I just do my research. However, I will end with this. Like I have been saying all along, if YOU want the vaccine, then go for it. That is YOUR choice. I choose NOT to get it, so don’t force it on me.

 

So the crux of what you are saying is that there are multiple conspiracies being orchestrated by multiple entities? Not only are the vaccines bad, the whole covid response was fabricated and unnecessary, and even though most doctors agree with the science we should listen to the single digit % of contrarians?

 

I find it interesting that anyone who disagrees with current COVID narrative and vaccine promotion is labeled as “crazy” or a “conspiracy theorist”. Yet those same people can’t counter any of the facts that are mentioned. Dr. Simone Gold, MD of America’s Frontline Doctors is extremely knowledgeable regarding this topic, and gives a very informative presentation on COVID and the “vaccine”. I’ve provided the link below, although it may be censored already by YouTube. If you don’t have any questions after hearing/watching this, then there is nothing more to talk about.

And the “crux” of what I am saying, is that YOU decide for yourself what risks you want to assume. You don’t get to make that decision for ME!!

https://youtu.be/Rxdxf-zHfU8