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Heavyflyer 10-13-2021 02:18 PM

Is the court hearing happening today?

Any updates on that?

ThumbsUp 10-13-2021 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3308630)
That doesn't mean they will be approved.

Right, but it the context of the TRO, it doesn’t matter.

guppie 10-14-2021 02:19 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 3308450)
I can spell "butt" and use it in a sentence also ...."I'm home sitting on my butt collecting 30k a month for the next 12 years!"

Not to mention damages...thats next!

riiiiight. Let us know how that works out for ya. Get the shot or move along. That's the choice. Watch and see. :cool:

beetlehog 10-14-2021 03:10 AM


Originally Posted by guppie (Post 3308848)
riiiiight. Let us know how that works out for ya. Get the shot or move along. That's the choice. Watch and see. :cool:

The fact that you are gleeful about your fellow airman losing their job is really disturbing. Please re-evaluate your life brother

AxlF16 10-14-2021 03:36 AM


Originally Posted by beetlehog (Post 3308852)
The fact that you are gleeful about your fellow airman losing their job is really disturbing. Please re-evaluate your life brother

He's simply reacting to taunting from a smug dbag.

Bestglide 10-14-2021 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3308859)
He's simply reacting to taunting from a smug dbag.

Falli n line “Comrad” or be fired. That’s a great “reaction’.

LeeFXDWG 10-14-2021 05:01 AM


Originally Posted by ThumbsUp (Post 3308580)
Yes, if you read my other post, I made it clearer…. it’s my understanding that everyone (at this point) has requested an accommodation that had not been vaccinated, so they fall under the TRO.

Could be fake news though.

Then I may have misread your post. Apologies. There are a handful of pilots who do fall in the no vax no RAP category. The MEC has filed a grievance regarding that small group. Last I heard single digits. Anyway, my point was only that there is a clear distinction relative to the Sambrano case.

AxlF16 10-14-2021 05:08 AM


Originally Posted by LeeFXDWG (Post 3308901)
Then I may have misread your post. Apologies. There are a handful of pilots who do fall in the no vax no RAP category. The MEC has filed a grievance regarding that small group. Last I heard single digits. Anyway, my point was only that there is a clear distinction relative to the Sambrano case.

Isnt it likely that the ~250 in the termination process 'slide' under the TRO umbrella since United was enjoined from refusing to accept late medical or religious accomodations? Wouldn't they be foolish to not apply for medical accomodation?

hummingbear 10-14-2021 05:33 AM


Originally Posted by UASCOMPILOT (Post 3308450)
I can spell "butt" and use it in a sentence also ...."I'm home sitting on my butt collecting 30k a month for the next 12 years!"

Not to mention damages...thats next!

Uh, not how that would play out at all. You’d lose any trip touching a blacklisted destination without pay. If that requires union ratification, it will be overwhelmingly supported. I don’t want you to lose your job, but I think I speak for the majority when I say you’ll work for your pay like the rest of us.

As to the larger issue, this TRO isn’t a win for either side- it’s a delay of proceedings while the court decides on the question of jurisdiction. Can the state of Texas determine legality of an employment policy from an international airline based in Chicago? It has the makings for a prolonged legal fight that works its way to the top. Even if Texas does rule against UAL, it’s more likely to have staying power for employees who work entirely in the state (rampers, ticketing agents, etc.) than interstate employees like pilots & FAs.

LeeFXDWG 10-14-2021 06:00 AM


Originally Posted by AxlF16 (Post 3308907)
Isnt it likely that the ~250 in the termination process 'slide' under the TRO umbrella since United was enjoined from refusing to accept late medical or religious accomodations? Wouldn't they be foolish to not apply for medical accomodation?

The key being they would have to apply. Whether or not they elect to do so? If they don’t, they wouldn’t be considered part of the class IMHO.


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