C12 Meeting Chaos?
01-10-2022 | 05:41 PM
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Yep. The union cannot help those folks. Nor should they try.
I did guffaw out loud when the anti-vax crowd suggested that all that 2X pay should be donated to their cause. That was some Olympic class hubris!
**This week, something like 1500 Americans are dying every day from Covid. The funny thing is 99 percent of them are unvaxxed. Based on that, I'd say that the jab works pretty well.
I did guffaw out loud when the anti-vax crowd suggested that all that 2X pay should be donated to their cause. That was some Olympic class hubris!
**This week, something like 1500 Americans are dying every day from Covid. The funny thing is 99 percent of them are unvaxxed. Based on that, I'd say that the jab works pretty well.
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01-11-2022 | 04:06 AM
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Yep. The union cannot help those folks. Nor should they try.
I did guffaw out loud when the anti-vax crowd suggested that all that 2X pay should be donated to their cause. That was some Olympic class hubris!
**This week, something like 1500 Americans are dying every day from Covid. The funny thing is 99 percent of them are unvaxxed. Based on that, I'd say that the jab works pretty well.
I did guffaw out loud when the anti-vax crowd suggested that all that 2X pay should be donated to their cause. That was some Olympic class hubris!
**This week, something like 1500 Americans are dying every day from Covid. The funny thing is 99 percent of them are unvaxxed. Based on that, I'd say that the jab works pretty well.
01-11-2022 | 06:16 AM
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Here ya go, Joe.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths
7-day moving average (deaths)
January 9th - 1552.
January 8th - 1544
January 7th - 1500
My point was, the vaccine clearly works for the overwhelming majority of those vaxxed and boosted. This has largely become a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths
7-day moving average (deaths)
January 9th - 1552.
January 8th - 1544
January 7th - 1500
My point was, the vaccine clearly works for the overwhelming majority of those vaxxed and boosted. This has largely become a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
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01-11-2022 | 08:03 AM
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Here ya go, Joe.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths
7-day moving average (deaths)
January 9th - 1552.
January 8th - 1544
January 7th - 1500
My point was, the vaccine clearly works for the overwhelming majority of those vaxxed and boosted. This has largely become a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tra...ds_dailydeaths
7-day moving average (deaths)
January 9th - 1552.
January 8th - 1544
January 7th - 1500
My point was, the vaccine clearly works for the overwhelming majority of those vaxxed and boosted. This has largely become a pandemic of the unvaccinated.
01-11-2022 | 08:51 AM
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And that choice came with consequences, to which they are fighting. That’s fine. If I were advising that group, however; I’d recommend not placing at the forefront of the fight two individuals who were vocally against the LOA that was written to keep at least 1/3 of our pilots employed(you know, a paycheck) and secured the seats of another 1/3 of our pilots by sacrificing line values for a period of time (that ultimately wasn’t needed more than a bid period due to federal government bailout). Not a great look and thus very little support from the 13,000 pilots who chose to be vaccinated (most because it was the smart thing to do for themselves and their families) last year. You are correct sir, their choice indeed
01-12-2022 | 03:32 AM
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Right. ALPA can't protect me from my choice to jump into the tiger pit at the zoo. Consequences. But lumping things the company does into a general category of "consequences" is just weasley rhetoric. Protecting a pilot's job when he refuses extra-contractual measures, when he refuses to take a drug, is precisely what a union is for.
01-12-2022 | 03:46 AM
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Right. ALPA can't protect me from my choice to jump into the tiger pit at the zoo. Consequences. But lumping things the company does into a general category of "consequences" is just weasley rhetoric. Protecting a pilot's job when he refuses extra-contractual measures, when he refuses to take a drug, is precisely what a union is for.
01-12-2022 | 04:13 AM
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Right. ALPA can't protect me from my choice to jump into the tiger pit at the zoo. Consequences. But lumping things the company does into a general category of "consequences" is just weasley rhetoric. Protecting a pilot's job when he refuses extra-contractual measures, when he refuses to take a drug, is precisely what a union is for.
01-12-2022 | 04:38 AM
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Back to the C12 issue, not that yet another circular covid argument isn’t inevitable, but what exactly is the history with the C12 “problems”? I’ve been here long enough to know, but I’ve never really paid attention to the politics in other bases. Has WM actually been a problem? Did she really do something unethical or against the pilots who elected her, or is it just some other political faction trying to smear her so that they can get their candidate elected?
01-12-2022 | 05:37 AM
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The people who can’t get treatment in medical centers because all the “patriots” who do their own research are clogging up icu beds. I’d say those people care, the frontline doctors and nurses worked to the bone care. Shall I go on?
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