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JFS 3 05-11-2022 07:58 PM


Originally Posted by CleCapt (Post 3420857)
Tips stands for

”To Insure Prompt Service”

if you’re not waiting for me when I get out front, the tip reflects that.

when I give a tip I always thank the driver for being there when we come out.

Reward good service and don’t keep tipping when you wait 20 minutes for pickup.

Cool story, but that's some Paul Harvey nonsense. Assuming it was true (it isn't), it would be "ensure" in any case.

worstpilotever 05-11-2022 08:10 PM

Recognize that most van drivers are simply cogs in the machinery. Them being late is not usually their fault, but the transportation companies fault for scheduling them too tight, or being short staffed, or changing their assignment last minute.

Iregretnothing 05-12-2022 04:33 AM


Originally Posted by Andy (Post 3420815)
Ironic. You just told me how to spend my money (cover the spread) after telling me that it's out of bounds to tell anyone else how to spend their money. Different rules for you than others?

And FWIW, when an FO doesn't tip, I give extra. If an FO asks to borrow a buck or two, I never ask nor expect to be repaid.

But please, if you ever fly with me or any other Captain that calls you out on this, feel free to tell me/then what you think of tipping/not tipping.

You’re right. That was ironic. I said tipping was good, though. So, if we fly together and we both tip and don’t give out unsolicited financial advise to each other, we’ll have a nice time.

Andy 05-12-2022 04:45 AM


Originally Posted by Iregretnothing (Post 3421030)
You’re right. That was ironic. I said tipping was good, though. So, if we fly together and we both tip and don’t give out unsolicited financial advise to each other, we’ll have a nice time.

Cool. However, I reserve the right to mock you if you tell me that you're a crypto HODLer.

Fat Old Tired 05-12-2022 06:16 AM

I never really understood the whole tipping the van driver thing. If you think about it, we are all employees working for those above us. Pilots don't tip the TSA for allowing us through security or the gate agent for getting us all boarded up. The van driver taking us to the airport we operate from is really no different than any other employee we deal with. They drive us, we then fly the people in the plane, etc. The driver doesn't work directly for the airline, but they are contracted by them so it is essentially the same.

For the new hires, they don't make really much money at all the first year. Give the new guys a break since everything costs so much and it's harder each and every day to pay bills. Those $1-2 tips over time add up.

texaspropguy 05-12-2022 06:30 AM


Originally Posted by LAXtoDEN (Post 3420358)
...The concerning part of what I’ve read is you’re the type of crew member who has a disagreement with a coworker and instead of working it out internally, you go running to management.

Ha, I doubt that.... quite the opposite.

Knotcher 05-12-2022 06:48 AM


Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired (Post 3421100)
For the new hires, they don't make really much money at all the first year. Give the new guys a break since everything costs so much and it's harder each and every day to pay bills. Those $1-2 tips over time add up.

Don't make much money? They make more than 3 times what I made my first year here. They are not raking it in but if they are struggling on first year pay they have other issues.

Fat Old Tired 05-12-2022 06:54 AM


Originally Posted by Knotcher (Post 3421123)
Don't make much money? They make more than 3 times what I made my first year here. They are not raking it in but if they are struggling on first year pay they have other issues.

Ok, but that was, what, in the 90s-mid 2000s? When you account for the inflation, we are remarkably similar in terms of real dollars. Not to mention some us new guys (include me) are likely to either be furloughed or hurt bad in the recession. Airlines are now showing a reduction in bookings.

I'm not saying 1st year pay is poverty, but having to tip a couple of dollars each and every van ride will add up each month.

libertyrisk 05-12-2022 06:59 AM


Originally Posted by Fat Old Tired (Post 3421100)
I never really understood the whole tipping the van driver thing. If you think about it, we are all employees working for those above us. Pilots don't tip the TSA for allowing us through security or the gate agent for getting us all boarded up. The van driver taking us to the airport we operate from is really no different than any other employee we deal with. They drive us, we then fly the people in the plane, etc. The driver doesn't work directly for the airline, but they are contracted by them so it is essentially the same.

Pilots should get tipped by the passengers when we get them to their destination safe and on time.

Fat Old Tired 05-12-2022 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by libertyrisk (Post 3421132)
Pilots should get tipped by the passengers when we get them to their destination safe and on time.

This would be more appropriate than pilots tipping the van drivers. The pax are our customers, therefore we as service providers could be tipped. Van drivers and pilots are employees, thus no need to tip each other. This is the difference.

Now if you hire a driver (taxi, uber, etc) to go somewhere, then you should tip since its personal travel.


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