UAL Reserve Rules
#151
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Just a rsv rule question but if your on your LDO before a work block you can get scheduled as early as 6am if you were released prior to 1500 on your last working day? Also does release mean I called and was actually released or does it just mean I didnt have anything on my schedule after last trip and before 1500?
#152
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I am not really sure where you read this but I cannot find a reference to it. I am pretty sure you cannot be assigned anything before 10 am on your first day of a reserve work block regardless of release time from the previous block. Also, they usually won't call to release you. Your release time should be on your master schedule. After that time has come and gone you are free. I think you are referencing the old contract. It did technically allow a 6 am show. That is why everyone stressed that you DO NOT answer your phone on your day off, there by forcing the 10 hour requirement starting at midnight on the 1st day. The new contract is pretty cut and dry. 10 am unless waived by the pilot.
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#153
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Was going to start a new thread but this one seems like the right place for some general questions that a potential new hire or applicant might want to know.I’m trying to gauge QOL at United for a pilot on reserve (within driving distance). Here’s what I hope are easy questions for a current UAL pilot to answer.
1. What is a g-line? Perhaps this will be inherently answered by the next question.
2. PBS: my previous experience with PBS is straightforward to me; a monthly bid was basically “please give me a regular line with all of these requests, if that doesn’t work please try a regular line with these different requests, if that doesn’t work try this set of reserve requests…” etc. So no one was really a full time “reserve” or “line” pilot; some months a 95% pilot might get a (crappy) regular line. Is this how UAL works?
3. For reserve bidding, do you effectively ask for certain days off, etc, then PBS gives you what you can hold within certain overall restrictions (min 3-day blocks, etc)? Or are there predetermined reserve blocks that you bid for?
4. How often is there a true, “be here as soon as you can” callout? I’ll be driving from around 1.5-2 hours from SFO, so if there is some traffic… it’s a little tight. I’m sure it’s fleet and time-of-year dependent, just looking for the general vibe.
Thanks in advance!
1. What is a g-line? Perhaps this will be inherently answered by the next question.
2. PBS: my previous experience with PBS is straightforward to me; a monthly bid was basically “please give me a regular line with all of these requests, if that doesn’t work please try a regular line with these different requests, if that doesn’t work try this set of reserve requests…” etc. So no one was really a full time “reserve” or “line” pilot; some months a 95% pilot might get a (crappy) regular line. Is this how UAL works?
3. For reserve bidding, do you effectively ask for certain days off, etc, then PBS gives you what you can hold within certain overall restrictions (min 3-day blocks, etc)? Or are there predetermined reserve blocks that you bid for?
4. How often is there a true, “be here as soon as you can” callout? I’ll be driving from around 1.5-2 hours from SFO, so if there is some traffic… it’s a little tight. I’m sure it’s fleet and time-of-year dependent, just looking for the general vibe.
Thanks in advance!
#154
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Was going to start a new thread but this one seems like the right place for some general questions that a potential new hire or applicant might want to know.I’m trying to gauge QOL at United for a pilot on reserve (within driving distance). Here’s what I hope are easy questions for a current UAL pilot to answer.
1. What is a g-line? Perhaps this will be inherently answered by the next question.
2. PBS: my previous experience with PBS is straightforward to me; a monthly bid was basically “please give me a regular line with all of these requests, if that doesn’t work please try a regular line with these different requests, if that doesn’t work try this set of reserve requests…” etc. So no one was really a full time “reserve” or “line” pilot; some months a 95% pilot might get a (crappy) regular line. Is this how UAL works?
3. For reserve bidding, do you effectively ask for certain days off, etc, then PBS gives you what you can hold within certain overall restrictions (min 3-day blocks, etc)? Or are there predetermined reserve blocks that you bid for?
4. How often is there a true, “be here as soon as you can” callout? I’ll be driving from around 1.5-2 hours from SFO, so if there is some traffic… it’s a little tight. I’m sure it’s fleet and time-of-year dependent, just looking for the general vibe.
Thanks in advance!
1. What is a g-line? Perhaps this will be inherently answered by the next question.
2. PBS: my previous experience with PBS is straightforward to me; a monthly bid was basically “please give me a regular line with all of these requests, if that doesn’t work please try a regular line with these different requests, if that doesn’t work try this set of reserve requests…” etc. So no one was really a full time “reserve” or “line” pilot; some months a 95% pilot might get a (crappy) regular line. Is this how UAL works?
3. For reserve bidding, do you effectively ask for certain days off, etc, then PBS gives you what you can hold within certain overall restrictions (min 3-day blocks, etc)? Or are there predetermined reserve blocks that you bid for?
4. How often is there a true, “be here as soon as you can” callout? I’ll be driving from around 1.5-2 hours from SFO, so if there is some traffic… it’s a little tight. I’m sure it’s fleet and time-of-year dependent, just looking for the general vibe.
Thanks in advance!
2. You can bid anyway you want, reserve, then a line, then back to reserve etc. Easiest reserve bid would be award reserve Monday to Friday (H++), Monday to Saturday (H+) , that would prioritize Monday to Friday (H means high priority then more pluses means you want those higher). Pbs is about filling buckets where you break down trips/reserve dates by priority and then it gives you what you can hold.
3. you can ask for days off either specific (date) or days of the week, or oppositely you can ask for the days you want to work. It’s not predetermined, that’s line bidding .
4. short call is 2 1/2 hours, anything earlier then that is you helping them. 2 1/2 is the contract.
#155
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1. it’s the line where someone guaranteed a line. Doesn’t mean people junior to that person won’t hold a line. If you’re senior to that person you’ll hold a line of you so choose.
2. You can bid anyway you want, reserve, then a line, then back to reserve etc. Easiest reserve bid would be award reserve Monday to Friday (H++), Monday to Saturday (H+) , that would prioritize Monday to Friday (H means high priority then more pluses means you want those higher). Pbs is about filling buckets where you break down trips/reserve dates by priority and then it gives you what you can hold.
3. you can ask for days off either specific (date) or days of the week, or oppositely you can ask for the days you want to work. It’s not predetermined, that’s line bidding .
4. short call is 2 1/2 hours, anything earlier then that is you helping them. 2 1/2 is the contract.
2. You can bid anyway you want, reserve, then a line, then back to reserve etc. Easiest reserve bid would be award reserve Monday to Friday (H++), Monday to Saturday (H+) , that would prioritize Monday to Friday (H means high priority then more pluses means you want those higher). Pbs is about filling buckets where you break down trips/reserve dates by priority and then it gives you what you can hold.
3. you can ask for days off either specific (date) or days of the week, or oppositely you can ask for the days you want to work. It’s not predetermined, that’s line bidding .
4. short call is 2 1/2 hours, anything earlier then that is you helping them. 2 1/2 is the contract.
#156
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
It's 2:15 to be exact. With that said it never hurts to tell the scheduler when you call back (always let it go to voicemail to evaluate what they are asking you to do) that "well that is less than a 2:30 report time....." if you haven't hit the actual trigger time for the add pay.
#157
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It's 2:15 to be exact. With that said it never hurts to tell the scheduler when you call back (always let it go to voicemail to evaluate what they are asking you to do) that "well that is less than a 2:30 report time....." if you haven't hit the actual trigger time for the add pay.
true. I didn’t feel like typing it last night. For anyone who doesn’t know, if you can report from a short call between 1:30-2:15, you get an hour of add pay. Less than 1:30, that’s 2 hours of add pay. Just tell the schedulers and they’ll put it on your pay stub. If you somehow aren’t going to make it by then, let them know and they can remove it.
#158
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I am not really sure where you read this but I cannot find a reference to it. I am pretty sure you cannot be assigned anything before 10 am on your first day of a reserve work block regardless of release time from the previous block. Also, they usually won't call to release you. Your release time should be on your master schedule. After that time has come and gone you are free. I think you are referencing the old contract. It did technically allow a 6 am show. That is why everyone stressed that you DO NOT answer your phone on your day off, there by forcing the 10 hour requirement starting at midnight on the 1st day. The new contract is pretty cut and dry. 10 am unless waived by the pilot.
#159
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true. I didn’t feel like typing it last night. For anyone who doesn’t know, if you can report from a short call between 1:30-2:15, you get an hour of add pay. Less than 1:30, that’s 2 hours of add pay. Just tell the schedulers and they’ll put it on your pay stub. If you somehow aren’t going to make it by then, let them know and they can remove it.
#160
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Since ORD is becoming more availabe to new hires just wondering specifically what reserve would look like for a new hire in ORD?
Maybe like 5 on 2 off Thursday to Tuesday with the reserve shift starting at 4pm or 3am? I've read on here that United's reserve rules are rough but it's not as bad if you live in base. I live in Chicago.
Maybe like 5 on 2 off Thursday to Tuesday with the reserve shift starting at 4pm or 3am? I've read on here that United's reserve rules are rough but it's not as bad if you live in base. I live in Chicago.
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