Daily Newark Meltdown
#31
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You might be missing the point about EWR and how little influence pilots have in making changes. The union can write letters all day long and it does nothing, it never has. I’ve been operating in EWR for going on 20 years and nothing changes……..ever. Different management teams have come and gone over the years, each with a different plan and campaign about how things are going to improve, yet nothing ever does. The old saying about making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear is appropriate. All we can do as pilots is keep the cabin cool, keep the passengers informed, accept EWR for what it is, and get paid by the minute.
The union doesn't write letters about EWR, management owns that.
Things will improve when the company hires, trains and retains enough staff to properly service the scheduled number of flights each day, plus enough people to account for irregular operations. Full stop. APU usage, SE Taxi, PAs, hugs and kisses for GS pax, none of these have any influence on not getting fueled, catered, etc. Period.
With the exception of getting to EWR early due to intentionally flying fast or departing early, there really isn't much of anything flight operations as a whole can do to fix the epic suck that is EWR. Anyone thinking otherwise is just inflating their ego or can't let go of their former job where they had an ops role. I'd like to also point out that management has consistently screwed up communicating this very simple concept to our pilots, as well. Lol.
#32
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So your solution is write a strongly worded letter? I covered that in the post prior, while it might make you feel better do you honestly think it’ll provide a remedy? And do you honestly think none of the “dinosaurs” have not tried that in the past.
You did answer my question, besides getting your shot in on senior pilots you have absolutely zero workable solutions. Carry on…
You did answer my question, besides getting your shot in on senior pilots you have absolutely zero workable solutions. Carry on…
nothing can be done to improve the situation at EWR. You pessimists are like the overweight people that say “I’ve tried everything, I can’t lose weight”. Well if they tried everything, wouldn’t they have found something that worked and lost the weight?
#33
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Joined: Aug 2020
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The union doesn't write letters about EWR, management owns that.
Things will improve when the company hires, trains and retains enough staff to properly service the scheduled number of flights each day, plus enough people to account for irregular operations. Full stop. APU usage, SE Taxi, PAs, hugs and kisses for GS pax, none of these have any influence on not getting fueled, catered, etc. Period.
With the exception of getting to EWR early due to intentionally flying fast or departing early, there really isn't much of anything flight operations as a whole can do to fix the epic suck that is EWR. Anyone thinking otherwise is just inflating their ego or can't let go of their former job where they had an ops role. I'd like to also point out that management has consistently screwed up communicating this very simple concept to our pilots, as well. Lol.
Things will improve when the company hires, trains and retains enough staff to properly service the scheduled number of flights each day, plus enough people to account for irregular operations. Full stop. APU usage, SE Taxi, PAs, hugs and kisses for GS pax, none of these have any influence on not getting fueled, catered, etc. Period.
With the exception of getting to EWR early due to intentionally flying fast or departing early, there really isn't much of anything flight operations as a whole can do to fix the epic suck that is EWR. Anyone thinking otherwise is just inflating their ego or can't let go of their former job where they had an ops role. I'd like to also point out that management has consistently screwed up communicating this very simple concept to our pilots, as well. Lol.
#34
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From: 18%er but I’ll enforce UPA23 to the last period.
We fly. They manage. Period dot end of sentence. I learned years ago when I sent in a picture of a twisted and unusable ground air hose that they don’t care. The reply I got was snarky and unprofessional. I learned they don’t care about our suggestions so I control what I can control. My airplane will be comfortable for me and my passengers. I will do everything in my power to make it as pleasant a flight as possible for my crew and my passengers. I’ll even play the SE taxi game when it makes sense to do so and can be done safely. I’ll fly efficiently when it makes sense. I’ll do my best to make sure I’m not early into EWR to the extent that I can. I will not solve their mis-management issues though or suggest how to do so. They’ve told me they don’t care about my opinion about issues I see. Fine. I fly. They mis-manage.
#35
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We fly. They manage. Period dot end of sentence. I learned years ago when I sent in a picture of a twisted and unusable ground air hose that they don’t care. The reply I got was snarky and unprofessional. I learned they don’t care about our suggestions so I control what I can control. My airplane will be comfortable for me and my passengers. I will do everything in my power to make it as pleasant a flight as possible for my crew and my passengers. I’ll even play the SE taxi game when it makes sense to do so and can be done safely. I’ll fly efficiently when it makes sense. I’ll do my best to make sure I’m not early into EWR to the extent that I can. I will not solve their mis-management issues though or suggest how to do so. They’ve told me they don’t care about my opinion about issues I see. Fine. I fly. They mis-manage.
#36
You’re really triggered by that dinosaur comment huh? I’m not pretentious enough to believe I have the answer. However, I am rejecting the belief that is so prevalent in this thread that
nothing can be done to improve the situation at EWR. You pessimists are like the overweight people that say “I’ve tried everything, I can’t lose weight”. Well if they tried everything, wouldn’t they have found something that worked and lost the weight?
nothing can be done to improve the situation at EWR. You pessimists are like the overweight people that say “I’ve tried everything, I can’t lose weight”. Well if they tried everything, wouldn’t they have found something that worked and lost the weight?
#37
I actually feel it’s gotten much better compared to late last year . Yes have I waited recently for gates and ramp congestion no doubt , but nowhere as bad as it was due to very low staffing while recovering from Covid Layoffs .
that being said , if your in 737 please turn on the APU , 2 engine idle (let alone 1 engine idle) just isn’t enough to keep decent air flow in a 737 while waiting for that Gate, The cockpit is much cooler than the folks in the back . You almost have to be cold in the cockpit for it to be decent in the back while on the ground.
that being said , if your in 737 please turn on the APU , 2 engine idle (let alone 1 engine idle) just isn’t enough to keep decent air flow in a 737 while waiting for that Gate, The cockpit is much cooler than the folks in the back . You almost have to be cold in the cockpit for it to be decent in the back while on the ground.
#39
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Joined: Aug 2008
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From: 787 Captain
I disagree. It is not our (pilots) problem to fix. Do you honestly believe that anything you tell managers about these issues is being considered?!? These problems are for management to fix. My job is to fly the aircraft safely from point A to B, fly the contract without apology, and keep my crew and passengers as comfortable and informed as I can. I don’t get worked up about things that are beyond my control
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