Daily Newark Meltdown
#41
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: 787 Captain
How exactly are YOU going to fix ramp and congestion issues at EWR? Maybe write a strongly worded letter, or make some passive aggressive quips on ops frequency? Try talking to management and see where that gets you. Unfortunately you’re dealing with a management that’s full of rainbows and unicorns and small on solutions. And your input will be summarily dismissed, no matter what they told you at charm school.
#42
Apologizing for things you didn’t cause…..just makes you a target for the frustration that you didn’t cause. Having said that…..the mindset of “I did my job, I’ll keep the temp down and sit on my hands” is pretty poor from a professional standpoint. We aren’t JUST plane-flying chimps…..there IS a customer service aspect to what we do. Again…..just my opinion.
One thing I do agree with….is that we aren’t airport managers.
#43
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Joined: Jan 2021
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You can be professional without apologizing. Id say the best update announcement would be something along the lines of your pax forgetting the day after they even had to sit and wait 30 mins for their gate to open.
#44
That would be like someone working the toll booth in California apologizing to pedestrians for road inefficiency’s in their system resulting in a 20 minute commute taking over 2 hours.
You can be professional without apologizing. Id say the best update announcement would be something along the lines of your pax forgetting the day after they even had to sit and wait 30 mins for their gate to open.
You can be professional without apologizing. Id say the best update announcement would be something along the lines of your pax forgetting the day after they even had to sit and wait 30 mins for their gate to open.
As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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#45
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Joined: Jan 2014
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No, it's not. The customers were inconvenienced by your company. You represent your company. Should a restaurant manager not apologize when the cook messes up your order? "I didn't cook your food!"
As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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#46
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[QUOTE=ReadOnly7;3432548]There’s a VERY fine line between apologizing and empathizing. IMO, it’s appropriate to say something along the lines of “we understand how inconvenient the situation is, and we are doing all we can to find a solution for the obstacle we are facing”. That’s actually quite a bit different than “I’m sorry we did this to you.”
Apologizing for things you didn’t cause…..just makes you a target for the frustration that you didn’t cause. Having said that…..the mindset of “I did my job, I’ll keep the temp down and sit on my hands” is pretty poor from a professional standpoint. We aren’t JUST plane-flying chimps…..there IS a customer service aspect to what we do. Again…..just my opinion.
One thing I do agree with….is that we aren’t airport managers.[/QUOTE
Someone need to sit in on another PPD class 😂😂
Apologizing for things you didn’t cause…..just makes you a target for the frustration that you didn’t cause. Having said that…..the mindset of “I did my job, I’ll keep the temp down and sit on my hands” is pretty poor from a professional standpoint. We aren’t JUST plane-flying chimps…..there IS a customer service aspect to what we do. Again…..just my opinion.
One thing I do agree with….is that we aren’t airport managers.[/QUOTE
Someone need to sit in on another PPD class 😂😂
#47
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Joined: Feb 2022
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From: Power Isosceles
No, it's not. The customers were inconvenienced by your company. You represent your company. Should a restaurant manager not apologize when the cook messes up your order? "I didn't cook your food!"
As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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#48
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Joined: Nov 2020
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[QUOTE=idlethrust;3432817]
At this point the secret is out, if a pax buys a Ticket that goes to and/or connects in Newark, well that's on them.
It's like going to a pro sporting event and complaining about the price of beer being more than $5 a pint.
There’s a VERY fine line between apologizing and empathizing. IMO, it’s appropriate to say something along the lines of “we understand how inconvenient the situation is, and we are doing all we can to find a solution for the obstacle we are facing”. That’s actually quite a bit different than “I’m sorry we did this to you.”
Apologizing for things you didn’t cause…..just makes you a target for the frustration that you didn’t cause. Having said that…..the mindset of “I did my job, I’ll keep the temp down and sit on my hands” is pretty poor from a professional standpoint. We aren’t JUST plane-flying chimps…..there IS a customer service aspect to what we do. Again…..just my opinion.
One thing I do agree with….is that we aren’t airport managers.[/QUOTE
Someone need to sit in on another PPD class 😂😂
Apologizing for things you didn’t cause…..just makes you a target for the frustration that you didn’t cause. Having said that…..the mindset of “I did my job, I’ll keep the temp down and sit on my hands” is pretty poor from a professional standpoint. We aren’t JUST plane-flying chimps…..there IS a customer service aspect to what we do. Again…..just my opinion.
One thing I do agree with….is that we aren’t airport managers.[/QUOTE
Someone need to sit in on another PPD class 😂😂
It's like going to a pro sporting event and complaining about the price of beer being more than $5 a pint.
#49
Line Holder
Joined: Apr 2018
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No, it's not. The customers were inconvenienced by your company. You represent your company. Should a restaurant manager not apologize when the cook messes up your order? "I didn't cook your food!"
As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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As far as the customer is concerned, you definitely owe them an apology... Which you can do easily while also reminding them that we're in the same boat.
I have a feeling none of you "I won't apologize" people let even a breathe of that attitude through during your HR interview. Unprofessional and unbelievable.
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I guess the communication and psychology experts have determined that the sincerity of the apology will seem less genuine if repeated too many times when you're stuck in the situation.
#50
Covfefe
Joined: Jun 2015
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I believe you just made the point that all of us “naysayers” have been saying. The restaurant MANAGER will apologize for the mishap. When the goat rope that is EWR falls apart and the train derails, that is something we (the pilots) had absolutely nothing to do with. SK and his entourage can come down and apologize to the customers for their own mismanagement. I have more self respect than that. Place the blame where it belongs. But you keep drinking that Kool Aid.
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