Retired pilots in the sim is scope concession
06-26-2022 | 09:07 AM
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P2P video has this as an LOA and the rep said "This is a backstop the company wants if nobody is interested in taking the positions which shouldn't happen with the increased compensation and we don't ever expect this provision to be used"....uh...then why did the company want it? Should never have been entertained...the company has a plan to use it as some point ...it is a chess strategy.
Agreed. It’s an open door for them
to push wide open later.
06-26-2022 | 09:09 AM
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Exactly. Next contract cycle will be a 10% raise in exchange for expanding the use of non-seniority instructors. Cycle after that we get a 20% B-plan for even more expansion.
Next thing you know, we are in a serious downturn that guts our contract, yet TK is still magically full of non-United pilots doing the instructing.
Next thing you know, we are in a serious downturn that guts our contract, yet TK is still magically full of non-United pilots doing the instructing.
06-26-2022 | 01:20 PM
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P2P video has this as an LOA and the rep said "This is a backstop the company wants if nobody is interested in taking the positions which shouldn't happen with the increased compensation and we don't ever expect this provision to be used"....uh...then why did the company want it? Should never have been entertained...the company has a plan to use it as some point ...it is a chess strategy.
06-26-2022 | 02:09 PM
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^^THIS^^
We have hired over 5thousand pilots since the merger. What most of those pilots don't know is that FSB was something we Legacy Pilots did not have before C2012 and when questioned at one of the Road Shows, our own union stated-
"They'll never use it"
Same when they said "We didn't raise the 76-3 pay as those airplanes are leaving and we didn't want to waste negotiation capital on them"..
Hmmmm
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We have hired over 5thousand pilots since the merger. What most of those pilots don't know is that FSB was something we Legacy Pilots did not have before C2012 and when questioned at one of the Road Shows, our own union stated-
"They'll never use it"
Same when they said "We didn't raise the 76-3 pay as those airplanes are leaving and we didn't want to waste negotiation capital on them"..
Hmmmm
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Always
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06-26-2022 | 02:29 PM
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Our contract requires that our sim instructors be on the seniority list. A huge concession if we gave that up. And opens the door to other threats. It's treasonous for the MEC to even consider giving that up.
1-B Scope
The Pilots and flight instructors on the Seniority List (the “United Pilots,” “United pilots,” “Company Pilots,” or “Company pilots”) shall have the sole and exclusive right to perform, train, and be trained to perform Company Flying and operate Company Aircraft in accordance with the terms and conditions of this agreement or any other applicable agreement or agreements between the Company and the Association (together, the “Agreement”).
06-26-2022 | 02:30 PM
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It allows them to staff the position with non seniority-list pilots. They're currently paid WB FO rates. Guess who gets furloughed before captains, my dear fellow birthing pilot. This makes furlough 1000 times easier for our benevolent masters just like RJ scope could potentially allow mainline to furlough while regionals hire. Furlough should be costly. This makes it far less costly.
06-26-2022 | 02:30 PM
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Regional pilots flying mainline routes took jobs from list pilots.
This isn’t hard to figure out
06-26-2022 | 02:48 PM
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It allows them to staff the position with non seniority-list pilots. They're currently paid WB FO rates. Guess who gets furloughed before captains, my dear fellow birthing pilot. This makes furlough 1000 times easier for our benevolent masters just like RJ scope could potentially allow mainline to furlough while regionals hire. Furlough should be costly. This makes it far less costly.
06-26-2022 | 02:56 PM
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