PP loss = $70,600 per DAY on B737CA alone!
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Just looked at systemwide 737 CA Premium Pay Trips on Crew Companion.
7/11 through 7/16
143 PP trips system wide for 737 Captains
Based on the number of 737 PP trips currently listed on Crew Companion “All Trips,” the TUMI TA will result in $424,602 LESS money in the pocket of our pilots. This just takes into account 737 CA trips between 7/11 and 7/16.
126 of these PP trips report BEFORE 1000
310 days of PP report BEFORE 1000
1,550 hours of PP report BEFORE 1000
17 of these PP trips report AFTER 1000
46 days of PP report AFTER 1000
230 hours of PP report AFTER 1000
Under CURRENT UPA:
Assuming $282/hr. (12th year pay)
1,550 x $282 = $437,100
$437,000 x .16 = $69,936 (B/C Fund)
BEFORE 1000 report PP trips = $507,036 of premium pay in pilots’ bank accounts.
Under TUMI TA:
126 trips @ 2 hours of ADD PAY per trip = 252 hours of ADD PAY
Assuming $282/hr. (12th year pay)
252 x $282 = $71,064
$71,064 x .16 = $11,370 (B/C Fund)
BEFORE 1000 report ADD PAY = $82,434 of additional pay in pilots’ bank accounts.
Which do you think is better?
Door #1: The extra $424,602 in the pockets of our pilots?
or
Door #2: The extra $424,602 in the pocket of Scott Kirby?
I’ll take what’s behind Door #1 Monte!!
$424,000 / 6 days = $70,600 per DAY
BUT WHEN ASKED POINT BLANK THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE WOULD NOT ANSWER HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST THE PILOT GROUP!!
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7/11 through 7/16
143 PP trips system wide for 737 Captains
Based on the number of 737 PP trips currently listed on Crew Companion “All Trips,” the TUMI TA will result in $424,602 LESS money in the pocket of our pilots. This just takes into account 737 CA trips between 7/11 and 7/16.
126 of these PP trips report BEFORE 1000
310 days of PP report BEFORE 1000
1,550 hours of PP report BEFORE 1000
17 of these PP trips report AFTER 1000
46 days of PP report AFTER 1000
230 hours of PP report AFTER 1000
Under CURRENT UPA:
Assuming $282/hr. (12th year pay)
1,550 x $282 = $437,100
$437,000 x .16 = $69,936 (B/C Fund)
BEFORE 1000 report PP trips = $507,036 of premium pay in pilots’ bank accounts.
Under TUMI TA:
126 trips @ 2 hours of ADD PAY per trip = 252 hours of ADD PAY
Assuming $282/hr. (12th year pay)
252 x $282 = $71,064
$71,064 x .16 = $11,370 (B/C Fund)
BEFORE 1000 report ADD PAY = $82,434 of additional pay in pilots’ bank accounts.
Which do you think is better?
Door #1: The extra $424,602 in the pockets of our pilots?
or
Door #2: The extra $424,602 in the pocket of Scott Kirby?
I’ll take what’s behind Door #1 Monte!!
$424,000 / 6 days = $70,600 per DAY
BUT WHEN ASKED POINT BLANK THE NEGOTIATING COMMITTEE WOULD NOT ANSWER HOW MUCH THIS WOULD COST THE PILOT GROUP!!
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Sub-inflation raises paid for by manpower positive gives.
The company has their back against the wall with manpower. It's their number #1 need. Everything bad in this TA is manpower positive. There are ways to meet this need that benefit both groups but instead we just gave the company complete control. The sprinkling of add-pay is merely company controlled cost variablization.
The company has their back against the wall with manpower. It's their number #1 need. Everything bad in this TA is manpower positive. There are ways to meet this need that benefit both groups but instead we just gave the company complete control. The sprinkling of add-pay is merely company controlled cost variablization.
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From my perspective, you are 100% spot on. The clear directive from the company side of this was higher pilot utilization. Although I don’t think our pilot group is opposed to this categorically, I think it’s pretty clear that in this TA, the company controls all the proverbial levers and strings.
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It’s a market economy. When there were more pilots than flying, airline managements had no qualms whatever about using furloughs and even bankruptcy to force lower pay scales and allow reneging on CONTRACTUALLY GUARANTEED pensions. Well, the shoe is on the other foot now. Time for the airline managements to pony up $$$ AND QOL. No “trading” this for that in this environment. It isn’t necessary.
They had no compunction about taking advantage of the situation when they had the advantage. Any pilot not wanting to take advantage of current leverage to regain at least part of what once existed is a fool. Anyone willing - in this environment - to accept a less than inflation-beating contract is basically voting to scab his/her own job.
They had no compunction about taking advantage of the situation when they had the advantage. Any pilot not wanting to take advantage of current leverage to regain at least part of what once existed is a fool. Anyone willing - in this environment - to accept a less than inflation-beating contract is basically voting to scab his/her own job.
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