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Old 11-24-2022, 12:45 PM
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As of September 2022 through May 2025 FedEx is slated to take delivery of 42 aircraft. That’s around 550 pilots when considering the permanent parking of the last 9 MD10s at the end of this year. Plus about 200 pilots per year retiring, so that’s about 1,000 pilots they need to hire in the next 30 months to cover for retirements and aircraft deliveries. They are just pausing hiring until February when they’ll start calling in the 150 pilots swimming in the pool.
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Old 11-24-2022, 01:11 PM
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Until the Biden administration no one ever argued that the definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP.
Exactly this.
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:07 PM
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Until the Biden administration no one ever argued that the definition of a recession is two consecutive quarters of negative GDP.
It has always been the textbook definition of a recession.
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Old 11-24-2022, 03:07 PM
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Except that simply isn’t true. I specifically remember having this discussion in undergrad (finance) in 1994 and again in grad school (MBA at at top 15 school) in 2015. There has never been an agreed upon definition of a recession by the NBER regardless of what partisan politics you attempt to interject.
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Whose definition? Yours? GDP growth last quarter, S&P higher than it was a year ago, record low unemployment, UAL has a record-breaking quarter... Maybe a real one is coming, but if this is what a recession looks like, I welcome it.
The S&P is down nearly 20% from a year ago. GDP growth after two consecutive quarters of retraction… no one should welcome these things.
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Except that simply isn’t true. I specifically remember having this discussion in undergrad (finance) in 1994 and again in grad school (MBA at at top 15 school) in 2015. There has never been an agreed upon definition of a recession by the NBER regardless of what partisan politics you attempt to interject.

“In 1974, economist Julius Shiskin came up with a few rules of thumb to define a recession: The most popular was two consecutive quarters of declining GDP. A healthy economy expands over time, so two quarters in a row of contracting output suggests there are serious underlying problems, according to Shiskin. This definition of a recession became a common standard over the years.”

Source - https://www.forbes.com/advisor/inves...s-a-recession/
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“In 1974, economist Julius Shiskin came up with a few rules of thumb to define a recession: The most popular was two consecutive quarters of declining GDP. A healthy economy expands over time, so two quarters in a row of contracting output suggests there are serious underlying problems, according to Shiskin. This definition of a recession became a common standard over the years.”

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Old 11-25-2022, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by JFS 3 View Post
Whose definition? Yours? GDP growth last quarter, S&P higher than it was a year ago, record low unemployment, UAL has a record-breaking quarter... Maybe a real one is coming, but if this is what a recession looks like, I welcome it.

2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP was recession until we re-defined it. S and P is higher??? Please put down your crack pipe. Look at the bond market yield curve for the 10 year and 2 year. They are INVERTED. This has happened in the recent past 4 times.

1. 1987 crash
2. Dot Com bubble/ 9/11
3. Housing Credit Crisis
4. NOW

I don't think you want to welcome what is likely coming sir. As far as FEDEX goes, your guess is as good as mine. Looks to be a rocky road ahead through my eyes.
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2 consecutive quarters of negative GDP was recession until we re-defined it. S and P is higher??? Please put down your crack pipe. Look at the bond market yield curve for the 10 year and 2 year. They are INVERTED. This has happened in the recent past 4 times.

1. 1987 crash
2. Dot Com bubble/ 9/11
3. Housing Credit Crisis
4. NOW

I don't think you want to welcome what is likely coming sir. As far as FEDEX goes, your guess is as good as mine. Looks to be a rocky road ahead through my eyes.
I liked Regan's definition:

Recession: When your neighbor loses their job.

Depression: When you lose your job.
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Old 11-26-2022, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Tini View Post
Except that simply isn’t true. I specifically remember having this discussion in undergrad (finance) in 1994 and again in grad school (MBA at at top 15 school) in 2015. There has never been an agreed upon definition of a recession by the NBER regardless of what partisan politics you attempt to interject.

Academic elites, enough said. They can literally argue any side of any topic.

Just look up the definition of recession or to recede. Then it will make total common sense why it’s never been argued amongst the populace that two consecutive quarters of negative (-) GDP is a recession. Because it can’t be said the economy has receded unless it happens at least twice in a row.

Why is this even a big dea now?
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