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01110011 12-02-2022 06:13 PM

Delta AIP
 
Details.

Good leads the way (Not applicable to contract negotiations apparently). Best we can do is 5% and a new Lock Screen.

Svfr 12-02-2022 06:18 PM

According to SK the company wants an industry leading contract but didn’t want to agree to something just to be leapfrogged by DL or AA. Well the bar has been set and it’s way more expensive than the pilot group would have accepted over the summer. Time for the company to pony up and offer the contract they claim to want/know they need

RaginCajun 12-02-2022 06:30 PM

That’s what real Union results look like.

01110011 12-02-2022 06:34 PM


Originally Posted by RaginCajun (Post 3541950)
That’s what real Union results look like.

I need to send a thank you card to Robert Isom. If AA hadn’t blown up our TA we’d have been stuck with that turd UALPA was pushing.

Cazadores 12-02-2022 06:43 PM


Originally Posted by Svfr (Post 3541927)
According to SK the company wants an industry leading contract but didn’t want to agree to something just to be leapfrogged by DL or AA. Well the bar has been set and it’s way more expensive than the pilot group would have accepted over the summer. Time for the company to pony up and offer the contract they claim to want/know they need

That first class deadhead agreement language is BS. We should be moving forward if anything on that.

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RaginCajun 12-02-2022 06:49 PM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3541956)
I need to send a thank you card to Robert Isom. If AA hadn’t blown up our TA we’d have been stuck with that turd UALPA was pushing.

Think our boys will be working through the weekend to get us an AIP by years end? NOPE.

01110011 12-02-2022 06:50 PM


Originally Posted by Cazadores (Post 3541974)
That first class deadhead agreement language is BS. We should be moving forward if anything on that.

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This AIP puts our failed TA to shame in literally every other way though.

The company/ALPA was going to turn lineholders into FSB, their AIP will pay extra for reroutes and either put you back on your original trip or release you with pay when you pass through base.

TA1 was on a totally different plane of existence than this AIP. I’m embarrassed our deal ever saw the light of day.

Snooter 12-02-2022 06:51 PM

To our NC.

Big E 757 12-02-2022 07:00 PM


Originally Posted by 01110011 (Post 3541986)
This AIP puts our failed TA to shame in literally every other way though.

The company/ALPA was going to turn lineholders into FSB, their AIP will pay extra for reroutes and either put you back on your original trip or release you with pay when you pass through base.

TA1 was on a totally different plane of existence than this AIP. I’m embarrassed our deal ever saw the light of day.


Your group had the stones to turn yours down, and so did AA. That sent a message to all of our management’s that we would not accept lackluster agreements. I was hoping for better back pay, but the soft money items are much better than we had so it’s still a decent agreement. Now you all need to go out and beat ours by a few percent and get a DAL+1% me too clause so we can keep ratcheting up off each other each month or year. I’m sure it’s only revisited each year unfortunately, if it was a monthly thing, we would have made it to where we all deserve to be in a year or two.

PilotsAreDumb 12-02-2022 07:05 PM

Our NC will be agreeing to a 13% DOS since they just gave us 5%. Watch.


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