American Adrift
02-24-2023 | 09:42 PM
#11
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If SK wants to rule the world it’s going to require matching Ed’s offer and then some. I have my doubts.
02-25-2023 | 01:58 AM
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He’s just got an axe to grind. Most people ignore him over on our threads. Please feel free to do the same.
02-25-2023 | 04:28 AM
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I agree, which why I didn’t crap Southwest for their meltdown because it could very well be us next year…..
02-25-2023 | 05:04 AM
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02-25-2023 | 06:54 AM
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Tbh I just felt that post was unnecessary, speculative, and disrespectful. Believed it to be a United pilot who was feeling themselves after a few Red Bulls but it apparently was a fellow coworker.
If SK wants to rule the world it’s going to require matching Ed’s offer and then some. I have my doubts.
If SK wants to rule the world it’s going to require matching Ed’s offer and then some. I have my doubts.
UAL pilot group needs to buckle down and get a fantastic contract. However, operational performance/market share and quality of pilot contract are related, but not directly proportional. SK has more on his plate than just pilots and it’s important to keep that in mind. A new contract might be a big issue for SK, but it’s an enormous issue for the pilots.
02-25-2023 | 07:15 AM
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If I was a major airline CEO (full disclosure....Im not) and I wanted to have the biggest bestest airline and looking a shrinking supply of pilots, what would I do? I think I would let the other major airline pass a TA and then find a way to leapfrog it considerably. For example, if that airline had a pay rate snap up, I would exceed the pay rates by a small amount, but say make a day worth 10 hours. Would require to bid on flight time rather than credit time, but now instead of working 13 days for 75 hours of pay, it becomes 130 hours of pay. (using 10 hours for easy math) This would blow the doors off the other airline and virtually all pilots would want to come to my airline instead of the other airline (unless, perhaps one lived in say, ATL)
02-25-2023 | 07:23 AM
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If the path to ruling the world runs through Atlanta, then heaven help us all. Especially if it snows half an inch.
02-25-2023 | 07:27 AM
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If I was a major airline CEO (full disclosure....Im not) and I wanted to have the biggest bestest airline and looking a shrinking supply of pilots, what would I do? I think I would let the other major airline pass a TA and then find a way to leapfrog it considerably. For example, if that airline had a pay rate snap up, I would exceed the pay rates by a small amount, but say make a day worth 10 hours. Would require to bid on flight time rather than credit time, but now instead of working 13 days for 75 hours of pay, it becomes 130 hours of pay. (using 10 hours for easy math) This would blow the doors off the other airline and virtually all pilots would want to come to my airline instead of the other airline (unless, perhaps one lived in say, ATL)
what we will see is matching or better pay rates than DAL because that is very transparent and measurable. But the new contract will be severely lacking in QoL improvements. Roll back of the Tumi 1 debacle plus some minor gives somewhere else is all we will see.
02-25-2023 | 08:04 AM
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02-25-2023 | 08:15 AM
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