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Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620264)
The problem is that people are still going above and beyond their duties. Captains handing out drinks in Polaris, single engine taxi, stand up PA's. Scott Kirby said that pilots are happy under the current contract.
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Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620264)
The problem is that people are still going above and beyond their duties. Captains handing out drinks in Polaris, single engine taxi, stand up PA's. Scott Kirby said that pilots are happy under the current contract.
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Originally Posted by drywhitetoast
(Post 3620398)
Soon we will have captains making balloon animals for the kid in the boarding area.
The clown suit in our industry has multiple uses. |
Been angry, treated my passengers like cattle and probably lost a few years off my life for it (through blood pressure, overnight beers, etc). I’ll continue to take care of my passengers to the best of my abilities. If the NC can’t use the leverage we have to get us a good contract, then god help us.
As far as extending, answering my phone, soft starts or “doing favors,” that’s a different matter. |
Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620264)
The problem is that people are still going above and beyond their duties. Captains handing out drinks in Polaris, single engine taxi, stand up PA's. Scott Kirby said that pilots are happy under the current contract.
We can advocate for an industry leading contract without being needlessly wasteful. |
Originally Posted by Tesla S
(Post 3619644)
I’d be ok with leaving first year pay the same as now. No one chooses an airline based on first year pay.
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Originally Posted by three1five
(Post 3620498)
Since when is single engine during a long taxi “going above and beyond”?
We can advocate for an industry leading contract without being needlessly wasteful. |
Originally Posted by serce
(Post 3620264)
The problem is that people are still going above and beyond their duties. Captains handing out drinks in Polaris, single engine taxi, stand up PA's. Scott Kirby said that pilots are happy under the current contract.
Up until TUMI 1, this company was selling a lot of pilots on doing extras. It was catching on. That was a narrow window of opportunity where a great contract would have made them rockstars. Imagine if we had gotten DAL’s contract before DAL did. Guys would have been over the moon. The whole “taking pride in the brand” movement would have exploded overnight. The irony is, today, that same contract would move the needle far less. By the summer, maybe not at all. The longer they drag this on, they’ll just end up spending the same money for a rapidly diminishing reward. Whether they believe it or not, they are losing to the clock. |
Originally Posted by hummingbear
(Post 3620585)
[size=12pt]Yes, some; & yes, for now. Because it’s illegal to organize any such “drawdown”, it doesn’t turn off like a light switch. But it’s obtuse to assume that what’s happening today is necessarily what will be happening tomorrow, in a week; 2 months from now.[/size]Every time BQ’s claims of wanting a “truly industry leading contract” are offset by an itemized communication from the union of all the industry average policies the company is refusing; every time SK claims DAL is the new standard & doesn’t follow through, the enthusiasm level drops. On their own timelines & in their own way, 15,000 people care a little less; so they do a little less. It takes time, but the longer it goes on, the worse it gets.
Up until TUMI 1, this company was selling a lot of pilots on doing extras. It was catching on. That was a narrow window of opportunity where a great contract would have made them rockstars. Imagine if we had gotten DAL’s contract before DAL did. Guys would have been over the moon. The whole “taking pride in the brand” movement would have exploded overnight. The irony is, today, that same contract would move the needle far less. By the summer, maybe not at all. The longer they drag this on, they’ll just end up spending the same money for a rapidly diminishing reward. Whether they believe it or not, they are losing to the clock. |
Originally Posted by RaginCajun
(Post 3618458)
Anything you guys are impressed with?
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