great post.

I think some of you need to go back and re-read the latest NC Blastmail.
while there are (obviously) more items that were Open then I expected, there were good items that were agreed upon.
That being said- it’s the company playing these games. And maybe they are doing it just to **** with us.. to see if they can get a few pilots riled up enough to cause trouble!

Do we have a ways to go- maybe/probably. Company can offer us the Honest & Fair Contract that we deserve.
And in a few weeks, if we don’t have an AIP>TA it will be the company’s fault when the PR starts to hit the fan!

Us?
We remain Professional, Safe and Fly the Contract.

Motch

Motch,

You hearing anything about BQ slow rolling negotiations because the rules we are asking for wouldn’t allow them to run the full summer schedule manning wise? Thursdays THall will be telling I imagine.

Sounds suspect to me just because it would be very easy to put an implementation timeline on said rules delaying them by a few months. That would be very unlikely to impact the vote because if you got everything you wanted with the only caveat that it wouldn’t all come at once, are you really going to vote no & go back to negotiations just to get the same TA 4 months later & then vote yes? Or would you just lock in the gains & accept that you’d be waiting 4 months for full implementation? You gain nothing by voting no.

Then again, I’ve stopped thinking people are doing things that make sense, so who knows?

Work rules are always phased in to allow them time to get proper staffing levels in place. A deal in the next couple of months wouldn’t have a negative impact on the summer schedule. The rates are immediate and that combined with simply being done with negotiations would only help cover the summer schedule. The ball is in their court.

I was optimistic that the delays in negotiations were due to ALPA asking for the moon, and slowly working to get all the high value proposals to be TA'd. Turns out we asked for mediocre changes at best, matching Delta rates with minimal QOL improvements, and still can't even get the company to agree to them. How the NC survived the recall wave is astounding. At this point, we might as well pull our proposal, survey, wait for AAs TA, file for mediation, and strike vote. It will add another 8-12 months to the process but we could actually end up with a contract that won't be a 50+1% yes vote as the current one seems to shaping up as.

How the company could survive that move is a big question. At what point does the backlog in CA seats affect everything down the chain to potentially pausing deliveries?

I'm willing to bet within the next couple weeks we will see that "fear biscuit" floated through someone at management.

"If we don't get people to upgrade, we will have to cancel/defer deliveries..." so please bid them...

I wouldn't bid NB CA as a Jr guy unless you can stomach reserve "as-is" for the next two years. Because that's probably what you'll be doing.

Let the company choose... give us the contract we deserve, or punt deliveries. Once you realize that those decisions are out of your control, these decisions are easy.

We fly, they manage.

What makes you think there is a problem? There are still a ton of junior takers on every vacancy. The only people who know if that is falling short of requirements would be crew resources. I stopped counting at 50 takers on today’s snapshot, but if we are getting that many with only a month after the last bid, there is no problem.

Not sure. All I know is our ask, at least what has been shared of it, is far less than what the United pilots deserve. This will be even more apparent once AA receives a TA. Do you want work rules that will be around for the next decade if we get a 50+1% contract?

That's true, I was surprised by that. But still it's got to be adding up